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Re: Outbound Route Filtering (ORF) vendor support


From: james jones <james.voip () gmail com>
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2021 08:04:24 -0500

PCRE or death. Tell me if I am wrong, but I thought PCRE was the most widely used regex lib these day anyways. I also 
thought it was already in Junos.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 19, 2021, at 7:56 AM, Jeffrey Haas <jhaas () pfrc org> wrote:

ORFs are a challenging feature and haven't gotten a lot of deployment for a number of reasons.

At a high level, they're a very coarse filter.  Since each new ORF type adds to the logical AND condition, you start 
having to be more and more permissive in what you permit in the policy.  Since a significant amount of common ISP 
policies require matching things in tuples, this doesn't translate super well into many types of automatically 
generated ORFs.

The ext-community-orf feature was effectively supplanted by Rt-Constrain (RFC 4684).

The as-path ORF was challenging because different vendors have different ideas about what "regex" means and what the 
input tokens are.  Consider for example Juniper vs. Cisco regex matching.  The abstract fix would have been to define 
a regex that is for the feature.  I half suspect if people pushed on this these days, they'd want PCRE. :-)

The RD-ORF work is part of some ongoing discussion about how to deal with VRF overwhelm (prefix-limit exceed).

-- Jeff (IDR co-chair)

On Aug 18, 2021, at 1:10 PM, Douglas Fischer <fischerdouglas () gmail com> wrote:

Hello!

I also found a recent draft(expires Novembre 2021) about using Route Distinguisher as a Value on ORF.
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-wang-idr-rd-orf/




Em qua., 18 de ago. de 2021 às 11:41, Humberto Galiza <humbertogaliza () gmail com> escreveu:
Hi,

Is anyone aware of any vendor that supports Outbound Route Filtering
(ORF) based on anything other than prefix-lists?

I found these two old IETF drafts (both expired :-/) which supported
the idea of filtering based on community and as-path respectively, but
I wasn't able to understand if they were ever discussed at the WG and
if there was any outcome of the discussion (I suspect the authors are
no longer even working with the mentioned companies in the drafts):

- https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-chen-bgp-ext-community-orf-02
- https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-idr-aspath-orf-13

Any info is very much appreciated.

Thanks,


-- 
Douglas Fernando Fischer
Engº de Controle e Automação


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