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Re: "Tactical" /24 announcements
From: Jason Pope <boards188 () gmail com>
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2021 09:09:55 -0500
On Thu, Aug 12, 2021 at 9:41 AM Hank Nussbacher <hank () interall co il>
wrote:
On 12/08/2021 17:59, William Herrin wrote:If you prune the routes from the Routing Information Base instead, for any widely accepted size (i.e. /24 or shorter netmask) you break the Internet.How does this break the Internet? I would think it would just result in sub-optimal routing (provided there is a covering larger prefix) but everything should continue to work. Clue me in, please.A originates 10.0.0.0/16 to paid transit C B originates 10.0.1.0/24 also to paid transit C C offers both routes to D. D discards 10.0.1.0/24 from the RIB based on same-next-hop You peer with A and D. You receive only 10.0.0.0/16 since A doesn't originate 10.0.1.0/24 and D has discarded it. You send packets for 10.0.1.0/24 to A (the shortest path for 10.0.0.0/16), stealing A's paid transit to C to get to B. Unless A filters C-bound packets purportedly from 10.0.1.0/24. B doesn't currently transit for A so from B's perspective that's not an allowed path. In which case, your path to 10.0.1.0/24 is black holed. D broke the Internet. If packets from you reach A at all, they do so through an unpermitted path. Regards, Bill Herrin
Ok, I apologize, but I have some dumb questions (because I don't BGP anymore): 1) I assume in the scenario that A "owns" (ARIN assignment) 10.0.0.0/16 and if B has a /24 assignment out of the block that A "owns", shouldn't that mean that B has a business relationship with A and some kind of direct connectivity to A? 2) If "no", then why is B using a /24 out of A's block? If A sold or gave the block to B without a connectivity agreement, then A should break up their announcements appropriately to carve the /24 out of their announcement, right? 3) If "yes", then the connectivity wouldn't be broken, right? TIA for the tutoring and bearing with me. Regards, Jason K Pope
Current thread:
- Re: "Tactical" /24 announcements, (continued)
- Re: "Tactical" /24 announcements Randy Bush (Aug 17)
- Re: "Tactical" /24 announcements Ben Maddison via NANOG (Aug 17)
- Re: "Tactical" /24 announcements Randy Bush (Aug 17)
- Re: "Tactical" /24 announcements Tim Raphael (Aug 17)
- Re: "Tactical" /24 announcements Ben Maddison via NANOG (Aug 19)
- Re: "Tactical" /24 announcements David Bass (Aug 18)
- Re: "Tactical" /24 announcements Ben Maddison via NANOG (Aug 19)
- Re: "Tactical" /24 announcements David Bass (Aug 19)
- Re: "Tactical" /24 announcements Ben Maddison via NANOG (Aug 19)
- Re: "Tactical" /24 announcements William Herrin (Aug 16)
- Re: "Tactical" /24 announcements Tom Beecher (Aug 16)
- RE: "Tactical" /24 announcements Jakob Heitz (jheitz) via NANOG (Aug 17)