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Re: A crazy idea


From: Owen DeLong via NANOG <nanog () nanog org>
Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2021 12:39:07 -0700



On Jul 29, 2021, at 14:14 , Daniel Corbe <daniel () corbe net> wrote:



On Jul 29, 2021, at 16:06, Joe Maimon <jmaimon () jmaimon com> wrote:



tim () pelican org wrote:
On Monday, 19 July, 2021 14:04, "Stephen Satchell" <list () satchell net> said:

The allocation of IPv6 space with prefixes shorter than /64 is indeed a
consideration for bigger administrative domains like country
governments, but on the other end, SOHO customers would be happy with
/96, /104 or even /112 allocations if they could get them.  (Just how
many light bulbs, fridges, toasters, doorbells, phones, &c does SOHOs
have?)  I would *not* like to see "us" make the same mistake with IPv6
that was made with IPv4, handing out large blocks of space like so many
pieces of M&M or Skittles candy.
Nay, nay, and thrice nay.  Don't think in terms of addresses for IPv6, think in terms of subnets.  I can't stress 
this enough, it's the big v4 to v6 paradigm shift - don't think about "how many hosts on this net", think about 
"how many nets".

Think of how many large ISP's a /3 of ipv6 effectively holds, assuming that /48 per customer is the norm, and /24 up 
to /12 assignments for those ISP's is also.

In those terms IPv6 isnt that much bigger.

I haven’t seen evidence that any RIR has allocated an entire /12 to an ISP.  Even a large one.  

I haven’t seen any evidence that an ISP has requested a /12 from an RIR. How would an RIR issue a block that hasn’t 
been requested?

Owen


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