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Re: DoD IP Space


From: Tom Beecher <beecher () beecher cc>
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2021 09:32:00 -0400


As long as that IP space was isolated to the .mil network, it was private
space, as far as the Internet was concerned.


The DoD allocation of 11/8 predates the concept of 'private network space'.

11/8 was first assigned to the DoD in RFC 943 in April of 1985. The concept
of IPv4 space for private networks was first defined in RFC 1597, March
1994. (Which eventually would become RFC1918. )

The fact that certain parties decided on their own that space not present
in the global routing table was 'fair game' or 'private' doesn't make them
correct, it simply makes them ill informed.

On Sat, Apr 24, 2021 at 7:18 PM Mel Beckman <mel () beckman org> wrote:

Bill,

It’s the INTERNET that is civilian, not the IP space. As long as that IP
space was isolated to the .mil network, it was private space, as far as the
Internet was concerned. Now DoD has moved it into the civilian Internet,
and I treat them as potentially malicious as I do any other organization
that lies, cheats, and steals the public trust.

 -mel

On Apr 24, 2021, at 3:45 PM, William Herrin <bill () herrin us> wrote:

On Sat, Apr 24, 2021 at 8:26 AM Mel Beckman <mel () beckman org> wrote:
This doesn’t sound good, no matter how you slice it. The lack of
transparency with a civilian resource is troubling at a minimum.

You do understand that the addresses in question are not and have
never been "civilian." They came into DoD's possession when this was
all still a military project funded by what's now DARPA.

Personally, I think we may have an all time record for the largest
honeypot ever constructed. I'd love to be a fly on that wall.

Regards,
Bill Herrin



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