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Re: Apple moved from CDN, and ARIN whois


From: Denys Fedoryshchenko <nuclearcat () nuclearcat com>
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2020 21:23:45 +0300

Mine is default whois on latest stable ubuntu.

x@x:~$ whois --version
Version 5.5.6.

Report bugs to <md+whois () linux it>.
x@x:~$ whois 17.0.0.0/8

#
# ARIN WHOIS data and services are subject to the Terms of Use
# available at: https://www.arin.net/resources/registry/whois/tou/
#
# If you see inaccuracies in the results, please report at
# https://www.arin.net/resources/registry/whois/inaccuracy_reporting/
#
# Copyright 1997-2020, American Registry for Internet Numbers, Ltd.
#


No match found for n + 17.0.0.0/8.


#
# ARIN WHOIS data and services are subject to the Terms of Use
# available at: https://www.arin.net/resources/registry/whois/tou/
#
# If you see inaccuracies in the results, please report at
# https://www.arin.net/resources/registry/whois/inaccuracy_reporting/
#
# Copyright 1997-2020, American Registry for Internet Numbers, Ltd.
#


On 2020-09-24 18:57, Tom Beecher wrote:
Apple started moving traffic off 3rd party CDNs to their own CDN six
years ago. This is not a new development.

Also, I see no issues with an ARIN whois lookup for that prefix.

~ % whois 17.0.0.0/8 [13]
% IANA WHOIS server
% for more information on IANA, visit http://www.iana.org
% This query returned 1 object

inetnum:      17.0.0.0 - 17.255.255.255
organisation: Apple Computer Inc.
status:       LEGACY

whois:        whois.arin.net [14]

changed:      1992-07
source:       IANA

# whois.arin.net [14]

NetRange:       17.0.0.0 - 17.255.255.255
CIDR:           17.0.0.0/8 [13]
NetName:        APPLE-WWNET
NetHandle:      NET-17-0-0-0-1
Parent:          ()
NetType:        Direct Assignment
OriginAS:
Organization:   Apple Inc. (APPLEC-1-Z)
RegDate:        1990-04-16
Updated:        2017-07-08
Ref:            https://rdap.arin.net/registry/ip/17.0.0.0

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On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 11:41 AM Mike Hammett <nanog () ics-il net>
wrote:

Breaking from current CDN infrastructure without reasonable
accessibility to the new CDN is a problem.

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Intelligent Computing Solutions [1]
[2] [3] [4] [5]
Midwest Internet Exchange [6]
[7] [8] [9]
The Brothers WISP [10]
[11] [12]

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From: "Denys Fedoryshchenko" <nuclearcat () nuclearcat com>
To: nanog () nanog org
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2020 9:27:07 AM
Subject: Apple moved from CDN, and ARIN whois

Hi,

Interesting, it seems AS6185 moved traffic from all CDN to their own

content network.
I noticed big spikes in traffic and complaints about slowness,
figured
out, Apple content (especially updates) are not coming from a
numerous
co-hosted CDN, but became "live",
congesting upstreams.
So much efforts on collocating endless CDN in premises to keep
things
closer to users and handle traffic surges, and yet again, some
companies
keep inventing their own.

P.S. I dont know if it is bug, but whois at ARIN return "No match
found
for n + 17.0.0.0/8 [13]" for 17.0.0.0/8 [13],
but works fine for single ip from this range, like 17.0.0.0, and
returns
info about 17.0.0.0/8 [13]


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[3] https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb
[4] https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions
[5] https://twitter.com/ICSIL
[6] http://www.midwest-ix.com/
[7] https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix
[8] https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange
[9] https://twitter.com/mdwestix
[10] http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/
[11] https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp
[12] https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg
[13] http://17.0.0.0/8
[14] http://whois.arin.net


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