Re: alternative to voip gateways

[Mel Beckman <mel () beckman org>]

> Brandon Martin said:
> In most of the USA, it's simply not cost-feasible to get access to that  unless you either are the ILEC or are a 
> well-established CLEC from a  long time ago. 

Brandon,

In the OP’s case however, the copper plant is private, and wholly owned and already in operation. So surely in that 
situation fiber would be much more expensive to dig and trench. 

-mel via cell

> On May 7, 2020, at 8:58 AM, Brandon Martin <lists.nanog () monmotha net> wrote:
>
> On 5/7/20 5:13 AM, Masataka Ohta wrote:
> > Investment for FTTH is 10 times or more than that for plain DSL.
>
> Only if you're comparing entirely new copper plant to existing copper  plant (including drops), in my experience.  If 
> you compare greenfield to  greenfield, the cost of fiber to the prem is not much greater than  copper (coax or 
> twisted pair).
>
> If you've already got access to existing copper plant, then reusing at  least the drops is definitely worth looking 
> into, yes.
>
> In most of the USA, it's simply not cost-feasible to get access to that  unless you either are the ILEC or are a 
> well-established CLEC from a  long time ago.  The ILEC mostly gets free reign to set the access costs,  and they set 
> them sufficiently high as to "discourage" competition from  using it where they can get away with it.
> -- 
> Brandon Martin