Re: alternative to voip gateways

[Nick Edwards <nick.z.edwards () gmail com>]

yes, POTS is the critical bit, the internet/data is an extra without
guarantee, ie it is not a critical component, voice is.

On 5/10/20, Baldur Norddahl <baldur.norddahl () gmail com> wrote:
> Hi Nick
>
> Have you considered using CPE DSL routers with VoIP and FXP analog out?
> Decentralized. That's what everyone are doing here. Might be free depending
> on where you get the CPEs.
>
> Or simply getting VoIP handsets. Lots of cheap DECT bases with VoIP.
>
> Regards
>
> Baldur
>
>
> søn. 10. maj 2020 14.51 skrev Nick Edwards <nick.z.edwards () gmail com>:
>
> > On 5/8/20, Baldur Norddahl <baldur.norddahl () gmail com> wrote:
> > > On Thu, May 7, 2020 at 11:14 AM Masataka Ohta <
> > > mohta () necom830 hpcl titech ac jp> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Investment for FTTH is 10 times or more than that for plain DSL.
> > > We are assuming the copper plant is already there otherwise I will
> > > respectfully disagree.
> > >
> > > However the economic is not as simple as you might think. Lets do some
> > > calculations.
> > >
> > > Assume we can build the fiber plant for 1 million USD (*). This fiber
> > > can
> > > be depreciated over 25 years. That means we only take USD 40,000/year
> > > of
> > > the company profit.
> > >
> > > The copper plant is already there but the DSLAM is missing. Assume USD
> > 100
> > > per port plus USD 100 per DSL CPE. This equipment can only be
> > > depreciated
> > > over 5 years. With 1700 ports this gives USD 68,000/year of the company
> > > profit.
> >
> > a 48 port dslam is 2200 (still awaiting cots  on line cards for above
> > mentioned chassis) so its about 45 per port, CPE is about 50 a device
> > in bulk (inc 4 gb ports, wifi)
> >
> > The copper exists, there is no ripping it out
> >
> > Due to location RF links are used for data, so no need to give each
> > cabin "future proof" since unless a carrier will run fibre to us for
> > 100's miles at their cost - it just aint happenin,  the cost is
> > extremely prohibitive.
> >
> > > Not claiming these number are anything but fantasy as I know nothing
> > about
> > > the layout of the project. Just illustrating that sometimes more money
> > now
> > > does not necessary means less profit for a company.
> > >
> > > (*) yes 1700 installs could be done for that in optimum circumstances.
> > > It
> > > could also be much more expensive, all depending.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Baldur