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Re: Outsourced NOC Solutions


From: Pui Ee Luun Edylie <email () edylie net>
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2020 08:49:40 +0800

The guy is asking a question, there is no need to act almighty if you dont have anything positive to add.Sent from my 
Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
-------- Original message --------From: Miles Fidelman <mfidelman () meetinghouse net> Date: 09/06/2020  08:22  
(GMT+08:00) To:  Cc: nanog () nanog org Subject: Re: Outsourced NOC Solutions 
    I ain't so little, and I'm old enough to call bullshit when I see
      it.
    
    On 6/8/20 8:04 PM, TJ Trout wrote:
    
    
      
      stop being a disrespectful little prick.
      
      
        On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 4:52 PM
          Miles Fidelman <mfidelman () meetinghouse net>
          wrote:
        
        
          
            Rod
                Beck rod.beck at
                unitedcablecompany.com wrote
            
            
              I would calm down, Miles. 😃 Dark fiber networks are built and usually maintained by the same construction 
company that installed them. And a dark fiber network does not even need a single full time optical engineer. If the 
cable is damaged, then the guys who installed it will repair it. All the expertise is there.

And no, I am not an executive at a undersea cable system. i was one of Hibernia Atlantic's top salesmen during the 
early years from 2004-2011 after which I retired.

              
            
            Funny thing then, given that you signed your original query
            as:
            
              Roderick Beck
VP of Business Development
United Cable Company
www.unitedcablecompany.com<http://www.unitedcablecompany.com>
            
            And following the link to United Cable Company's web site
              reveals:
            "Your source for the world's most distinctive submarine
              cable assets."  And the about page says "Its mission, as a
              leading telecom consulting company, is to represent the
              world’s most distinctive submarine and terrestrial cable
              assets."
            Your original query asked:
             
            
              Am I wrong in believing that there should be a way of lighting a single pair in the cable and then 
monitoring it for signal disruption? It is not a perfect solution, but arguably better than learning that the cable has 
been damaged from an irate customer.
            
            In a followup message you say:
             
            
              Just to clarify, this is a dark fiber network already built and will be repaired by the construction 
company that built it. I just a system to inform them as soon as the fibers are damaged.

            
            So... color me confused about who you are, who you
              represent, what you're trying to accomplish, what you're
              asking, and, perhaps, why you don't already know the
              answer to your question, or have someone internal to your
              organization who already knows.
            Miles Fidelman
            
            
               
            
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    -- 
In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice.
In practice, there is.  .... Yogi Berra

Theory is when you know everything but nothing works. 
Practice is when everything works but no one knows why. 
In our lab, theory and practice are combined: 
nothing works and no one knows why.  ... unknown
  

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