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Re: Is there any data on packet duplication?
From: William Herrin <bill () herrin us>
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2020 22:11:59 -0700
On Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 9:43 PM Saku Ytti <saku () ytti fi> wrote:
I can't tell you how common it is, because that type of visibility is not easy to acquire, But I can explain at least one scenario when it occasionally happens. 1) Imagine a ring of L2 metro ethernet 2) Ring is connected to two PE routers, for redundancy 3) Customers are connected to ring ports and backhauled over VLAN to PE If there is very little traffic from Network=>Customer, the L2 metro forgets the MAC of customer subinterfaces (or VRRP) on the PE routers. Then when the client sends a packet to the Internet, the L2 floods it to all eligible ports, and it'll arrive to both PE routers, which will continue to forward it to the Internet.
Hi Saku, That's what spanning tree and its compatriots are for. Otherwise, ordinary broadcast traffic (like those arp packets) would travel in a loop, flooding the network and it would just about instantly collapse when you first turned it on. A slightly more likely scenario is a wifi link. 802.11 employs layer-2 retries across the wireless segment. When the packet is successfully transmitted but the ack is garbled, the packet may be sent a second time. Even then I wouldn't expect duplicated packets to be more than a very small fraction of a percent. Hal, if you're seeing a non-trivial amount of identical packets, my best guess is that the client is sending identical packets for some reason. NTP you say? How does iburst work during initial sync up? Regards, Bill Herrin -- William Herrin bill () herrin us https://bill.herrin.us/
Current thread:
- Is there any data on packet duplication? Hal Murray (Jun 22)
- Re: Is there any data on packet duplication? Saku Ytti (Jun 22)
- Re: Is there any data on packet duplication? William Herrin (Jun 22)
- Re: Is there any data on packet duplication? Saku Ytti (Jun 22)
- Re: Is there any data on packet duplication? Mark Tinka (Jun 22)
- Re: Is there any data on packet duplication? Saku Ytti (Jun 22)
- Re: Is there any data on packet duplication? Mark Tinka (Jun 22)
- Re: Is there any data on packet duplication? Saku Ytti (Jun 22)
- Re: Is there any data on packet duplication? Mark Tinka (Jun 22)
- Re: Is there any data on packet duplication? William Herrin (Jun 22)
- Re: Is there any data on packet duplication? Saku Ytti (Jun 22)
- Re: Is there any data on packet duplication? Sabri Berisha (Jun 22)
- Re: Is there any data on packet duplication? Saku Ytti (Jun 22)
- Re: Is there any data on packet duplication? Sabri Berisha (Jun 22)
- Re: Is there any data on packet duplication? Saku Ytti (Jun 22)