Re: Reminiscing our first internet connections (WAS) Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that

[Brandon Martin <lists.nanog () monmotha net>]

On 1/27/20 2:00 PM, Jamie Bowden via NANOG wrote:
> I don't know about the other ILECs out there, but I don't know if Verizon will even provision a T1 anymore.  I know 
> you can still get a PRI (that's how our phone systems interface with the PSTN), but if we needed a CT1 instead, I 
> don't know that they'd be able (willing) to deliver it.  I know you can't get a BRI.  We moved offices a few years 
> ago and we basically lost the ability to use our STEs for anything but voice as we couldn't get BRIs delivered to the 
> new space.

Last I checked (a couple years ago, I guess), you could absolutely still order a clear-channel point-to-point T1 in 
AT&T territory in the Indianapolis LATA including surrounding exchanges.  I don't know if AT&T themselves would put 
channelized/CAS voice on it, but I'm sure you could find someone they can terminate it to who would.  I assume this is 
the same in many places.  Now, presumably they'll deliver it on their existing TDM optical plant if you're in an on-net 
facility or SHDSL if you're not as has been the case for a couple decades at least, but it was still something you 
could order.

I got a quote on a channelized/split T1 with 4 voice channels and the remainder used for PPP IP service from 
Centurylink about a year back, too, for out-of-band and alarm use in a (non-Centurylink but about 3 blocks away from 
theirs) CO facility within part of their legacy Sprint/Embarq footprint.  They did give me a quote, so I assume they 
would have delivered it (somehow).  It was laughably expensive, but they did offer to do it.  IIRC they actually were 
going to do it as a PRI with 4 voice bearers, the 1 PRI signalling channel, and then the remaining 18 channels for the 
point-to-point data, so perhaps they were able to do that since it was a "PRI" product (which may have at least 
partially explained the exorbitant cost).  We ended up just ordering 3 POTS lines and <grumble grumble> for OOB data.
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Brandon Martin