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Re: FYI - Suspension of Cogent access to ARIN Whois
From: Owen DeLong <owen () delong com>
Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2020 20:19:25 -0800
I will also say that ARIN does not appear to take suspension like this lightly at all… It has taken many years and I’m betting (at least) scores of complaints about this chronic behavior by Cogent prior to ARIN taking this action. I know that I personally have filed a number of fully documented incidents myself as well as several less formal mentions of the behavior to ARIN staff over at least 5 (probably closer to 10) years. Owen
On Jan 6, 2020, at 22:16 , John Curran <jcurran () arin net> wrote: On 6 Jan 2020, at 11:43 PM, Stephen Wilcox <swilcox () ixreach com <mailto:swilcox () ixreach com>> wrote:Out of interest, what does it take to have an ARIN contract or core ARIN services revoked? Is there such a threshold, does breach of contract ever result in consequential action? This seems more like a talking point than an act with teeth to it…Steve - This action is due to misuse of ARIN’s Whois services: specifically, organizations that routinely misuse the Whois data risk losing access to the information. As I noted elsewhere, it is possible for the suspension of access to Whois to be technically circumvented, but ARIN still has to take abuse of the data seriously because our customers make their contact data available specifically for facilitating network operations, and this includes terminating or suspending access to the Whois service for those who chronically fail to comply with the terms of use, such as those who repeatedly violate the prohibition on marketing & solicitation using ARIN Whois data. It is also possible that such misuse of ARIN Whois is a violation of ARIN’s registration services agreement (which provides for more significant recourse such as resource revocation), but ARIN is simply suspending access to the Whois service as that action directly corresponds to (and helps mitigate) the specific terms of use violation. Thanks, /John John Curran President and CEO American Registry for Internet Numbers
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- Re: FYI - Suspension of Cogent access to ARIN Whois, (continued)
- Re: FYI - Suspension of Cogent access to ARIN Whois Töma Gavrichenkov (Jan 07)
- Re: FYI - Suspension of Cogent access to ARIN Whois Eric Kuhnke (Jan 07)
- Re: FYI - Suspension of Cogent access to ARIN Whois Christian Seitz (Jan 06)
- Re: FYI - Suspension of Cogent access to ARIN Whois Tore Anderson (Jan 07)
- Re: FYI - Suspension of Cogent access to ARIN Whois Owen DeLong (Jan 07)
- Re: FYI - Suspension of Cogent access to ARIN Whois Martin Hannigan (Jan 06)
- Re: FYI - Suspension of Cogent access to ARIN Whois Ross Tajvar (Jan 06)
- Re: FYI - Suspension of Cogent access to ARIN Whois John Curran (Jan 06)
- Re: FYI - Suspension of Cogent access to ARIN Whois TJ Trout (Jan 06)
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- Re: FYI - Suspension of Cogent access to ARIN Whois John Curran (Jan 06)
- Re: FYI - Suspension of Cogent access to ARIN Whois Owen DeLong (Jan 07)
- Re: FYI - Suspension of Cogent access to ARIN Whois Ross Tajvar (Jan 06)
- Re: FYI - Suspension of Cogent access to ARIN Whois Martijn Schmidt via NANOG (Jan 07)
- Re: FYI - Suspension of Cogent access to ARIN Whois Mark Tinka (Jan 07)
- Re: FYI - Suspension of Cogent access to ARIN Whois Martijn Schmidt via NANOG (Jan 07)
- Re: FYI - Suspension of Cogent access to ARIN Whois Mark Tinka (Jan 07)
- Re: FYI - Suspension of Cogent access to ARIN Whois Matthew Walster (Jan 07)
- Re: FYI - Suspension of Cogent access to ARIN Whois Mark Tinka (Jan 07)
- Re: FYI - Suspension of Cogent access to ARIN Whois John Curran (Jan 07)
- Re: FYI - Suspension of Cogent access to ARIN Whois Martin Hannigan (Jan 07)
- Re: FYI - Suspension of Cogent access to ARIN Whois Matt Harris (Jan 07)
- Re: FYI - Suspension of Cogent access to ARIN Whois Mike Hammett (Jan 07)