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Re: DiviNetworks
From: Justin Wilson <lists () mtin net>
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2020 15:34:56 -0500
They don’t lease your IP space is the thing. Justin Wilson lists () mtin net — https://j2sw.com - All things jsw (AS209109) https://blog.j2sw.com - Podcast and Blog
On Feb 6, 2020, at 2:07 PM, Mike Fuller <mjf () google com> wrote: I'd be very cautious about engaging with any company whose business model is to get a short-term lease of your IP-space. Many companies use IP reputation data, and so you are essentially lending that reputation to a 3rd party, who may use it in ways you don't anticipate until the reputation is sufficiently damaged, and then return it to you and move on to another ISP. Some organizations' response to unwanted traffic is simply to block large IP ranges or entire ASes, and not everyone is good about following-up and expiring such blocks in the future. I realize your customers haven't ended-up on any spam/abuse blocklists, but that doesn't mean they won't be, or that their IP reputation hasn't already been affected in less obvious ways. You should ask yourself if you are being sufficiently compensated for these risks as reputable IPv4 space is at a premium, so replacing the IPv4 space you lent out could get quite costly. -- Mike Fuller :: Security Reliability Engineer :: Google :: AS15169 On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 12:15 PM Justin Wilson <lists () mtin net <mailto:lists () mtin net>> wrote: Have several networks using them. This he networks get paid, and no blacklists. Contact me off list if you want more details Justin Wilson lists () mtin net <mailto:lists () mtin net> — https://j2sw.com <https://j2sw.com/> - All things jsw (AS209109) https://blog.j2sw.com <https://blog.j2sw.com/> - Podcast and BlogOn Feb 5, 2020, at 2:14 PM, Steve Saner <ssaner () hubris net <mailto:ssaner () hubris net>> wrote: Has anyone here worked with DiviNetworks (https://divinetworks.com/ <https://divinetworks.com/>) to "sell" their unused bandwidth? I'd be curious to hear any thoughts or experiences. Steve -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Steven Saner <ssaner () hubris net <mailto:ssaner () hubris net>> Voice: 316-858-3000 <tel:(316)%20858-3000> Director of Network Operations Fax: 316-858-3001 <tel:(316)%20858-3001> Hubris Communications http://www.hubris.net <http://www.hubris.net/>
Current thread:
- DiviNetworks Steve Saner (Feb 05)
- Re: DiviNetworks Justin Wilson (Feb 05)
- Re: DiviNetworks Mike Fuller via NANOG (Feb 06)
- Re: DiviNetworks Justin Wilson (Feb 06)
- Re: DiviNetworks Damian Menscher via NANOG (Feb 06)
- RE: DiviNetworks Nathan Babcock (Feb 06)
- Re: DiviNetworks William Herrin (Feb 06)
- Re: DiviNetworks Ronald F. Guilmette (Feb 06)
- Re: DiviNetworks Mike Fuller via NANOG (Feb 06)
- Re: DiviNetworks Tom Beecher (Feb 06)
- Re: DiviNetworks Justin Wilson (Feb 05)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- DiViNetworks Ronald F. Guilmette (Feb 06)
- Re: DiViNetworks Ahmed Borno (Feb 06)
- Monetizing IPv4 addresses / DiViNetworks Ronald F. Guilmette (Feb 07)