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Re: Update to BCP-38?


From: Mark Andrews <marka () isc org>
Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2019 06:56:51 +1000

Look at CableLabs specifications.  There is also RFC 7084, Basic Requirements
for IPv6 Customer Edge Routers which CableLabs reference.

Also RFC 8585, Requirements for IPv6 Customer Edge Routers to Support IPv4-as-a-Service

Mark

On 5 Oct 2019, at 12:00 am, Stephen Satchell <list () satchell net> wrote:

On 10/3/19 10:13 PM, Fred Baker wrote:
There is one thing in 1122/1123 and 1812 that is not in those kinds
of documents that I miss; that is essentially "why". Going through
1122/1123 and 1812, you'll ind several sections that say "we require
X", and follow that with a "discussion" section that says "we thought
about X, Y, and Z, there were proponents of each, the arguments were
X', Y', and Z', and we chose X for this reason". I would presume that
what you're really looking for in a 1812-for-IPv6 is not "we require
X" as much as "for this reason". Correct me if I'm wrong.

Ah.  What I'm looking for is a list of check-boxes to include in an
implementation specification for an edge router.  It can be references
to a whole bunch of RFCs and "packaged" as a BCP.  The discussions you
describe are better in the individual papers.

Side note: I'm used to rationales being included in Standards, and
welcome them, as long as they are normative and clearly marked so.

I can kick the idea around in the IETF if its important to you. I'll
be looking for a LOT of operational input.

It could well me that the data is there, we just need a document to
index it all.  That's what I thought a BPC was supposed to be.  It would
be like an article in ACM Computing Surveys, which references the
existing literature, as opposed to being created from whole cloth.

I think I steered everyone wrong when I was talking about some of the
exposition in the text, specifically the examples.  That kind of
material really belongs in an RFC.  My apologies.

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