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Re: Any info on devices that are running eBGP on the Internet?


From: Erik Sundberg <ESundberg () nitelusa com>
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2019 08:55:49 +0000

Keep in mind that some members on the IX are using a configured mac address instead of the burn in MAC Address on the 
router's NIC Card.

We have done this in the past during for multiple reasons so we don't have to call the IX and wait on them to up date 
the filters.
-IX Port upgrading in bandwidth. I.E. 1G  -> 10G
-Router chassis or card upgrades
-Circuit grooms

This also allows us the flexibility to move the IX port to a difference device in the event of an outage, hardware 
failure, or other event.

-Erik
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From: NANOG <nanog-bounces () nanog org> on behalf of Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuhnke () gmail com>
Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 4:47 PM
To: Edward Dore <edward.dore () freethought-internet co uk>; nanog () nanog org list <nanog () nanog org>
Subject: Re: Any info on devices that are running eBGP on the Internet?

The OUI prefixes that are Intel, Dell, HP, Supermicro and other x86-64 hardware vendors are almost certainly people 
running BIRD, FRR or similar on commodity hardware. In which case the actual routing configuration could be almost 
anything, those just happen to be the PCI-Express NICs in some sort of server platform.



On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 11:59 AM Edward Dore <edward.dore () freethought-internet co uk<mailto:edward.dore () 
freethought-internet co uk>> wrote:
I just grabbed the following from our routers connected to LINX LON1, LINX LON2, LINX Manchester and LONAP (so this 
data is very UK centric):

 557 Cisco Systems, Inc
 553 Juniper Networks
  51 Routerboard.com
  51 Brocade Communications Systems, Inc.
  49 Arista Networks
  40 Unknown
  38 Intel Corporate
  36 HUAWEI TECHNOLOGIES CO.,LTD
  31 Globalscale Technologies, Inc.
  20 Super Micro Computer, Inc.
  20 Alcatel-Lucent IPD
  15 Nokia
  14 Hewlett Packard
  10 VMware, Inc.
  10 Ubiquiti Networks Inc.
  10 Sunrich Technology Limited
  10 Extreme Networks, Inc.
   7 Dell Inc.
   5 IEEE Registration Authority
   4 Intel Corporation
   4 HotLava Systems, Inc.
   3 FireBrick Limited
   2 Raspberry Pi Foundation
   2 Nexcom International Co., Ltd.
   2 Microsoft Corporation
   2 Mellanox Technologies, Inc.
   2 ICP Electronics Inc.
   2 Hewlett Packard Enterprise
   2 BSkyB Ltd
   1 Xensource, Inc.
   1 XEROX CORPORATION
   1 Solarflare Communications Inc.
   1 SILICOM, LTD.
   1 MIX s.r.l.
   1 LANNER ELECTRONICS, INC.
   1 GIGA-BYTE TECHNOLOGY CO.,LTD.
   1 DriveCam Inc
   1 DIGITAL EQUIPMENT CORPORATION
   1 Agile Systems Inc.

That's done using https://github.com/bauerj/mac_vendor_lookup to do the MAC lookup against the IEEE OUI list with the 
"Unknown" entries being anything which doesn't appear in http://standards-oui.ieee.org/oui.txt (possibly locally 
administered addresses?).

Hope that's helpful to someone 🙂


Edward Dore

Freethought Internet

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From: NANOG <nanog-bounces () nanog org<mailto:nanog-bounces () nanog org>> on behalf of Sabri Berisha <sabri () 
cluecentral net<mailto:sabri () cluecentral net>>
Sent: 07 November 2019 19:08
To: Compton, Rich A <Rich.Compton () charter com<mailto:Rich.Compton () charter com>>
Cc: nanog <nanog () nanog org<mailto:nanog () nanog org>>
Subject: Re: Any info on devices that are running eBGP on the Internet?

Hi,

What you could consider is asking a few of the major internet exchanges if they'd be so kind to send you a list of MAC 
addresses seen on their LANs. Based on the MAC you can determine the manufacturer. If you have three or four big ones, 
you have a decent sample size as most larger networks are on multiple IXes anyway.

If you do compile a list, I'm sure this list would be interested in the results :)

Thanks,

Sabri


----- On Nov 6, 2019, at 10:39 AM, Compton, Rich A <Rich.Compton () charter com<mailto:Rich.Compton () charter com>> 
wrote:

Hi, I am working with MANRS (https://www.manrs.org) on a tool for checking router configs for BGP security / spoofing 
prevention (e.g. uRPF) https://github.com/manrs-tools/MANRS-validator

We are wondering if there is any research on the percentages of different types of devices running BGP on the Internet.

Something like:

Cisco IOS 30%

Junos 30%

Mikrotik 20%

etc…

We are looking to focus our tool on the most prevalent types of devices doing BGP (and the most prevalent with BGP 
security/spoofing issues) so that we can have the greatest impact.  Does anyone have any information on this or know 
where I can obtain this information?  Thanks in advance!

 -Rich

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