Re: RIPE our of IPv4

[Brian Knight <ml () knight-networks com>]

> On Nov 27, 2019, at 4:04 PM, Mark Andrews <marka () isc org> wrote:
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> 
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> > On 28 Nov 2019, at 06:08, Brian Knight <ml () knight-networks com> wrote:
> >
> > > On 2019-11-26 17:11, Ca By wrote:
> > > On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 12:15 AM Sabri Berisha <sabri () cluecentral net>
> > > wrote:
> > > > ----- On Nov 26, 2019, at 1:36 AM, Doug Barton dougb () dougbarton us wrote:
> >
> > [snip]
> > > > there is no ROI at this point. In this kind of environment there needs to
> > > > be a strong case to invest the capex to support IPv6.
> > > > IPv6 must be supported on the CxO level in order to be deployed.
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Sabri, (Badum tsss) MBA
> > > I see....well let me translate it you MBA-eese for you:
> > > FANG deployed ipv6 nearly 10 years ago. Since deploying ipv6, the cohort
> > > experienced 300% CAGR. Also, everything is mobile, and all mobile providers
> > > in the usa offer ipv6 by default in most cases. Latency! Scale! As your
> > > company launches its digital transformation iot 2020 virtualization
> > > container initiatives, ipv6 will be an integral part of staying relevant on
> > > the blockchain.  Also, FANG did it nearly 10 years ago.  Big content and
> > > big eyeballs are on ipv6, ipv4 is a winnowing longtail of irrelevance and
> > > iot botnets.
> >
> > None of which matters a damn to almost all of my business eyeball customers.  They can still get from our network to 
> > 100% of all Internet content & services via IPv4 in 2019.
>
> No you can’t.  You can’t reach the machine I’m typing on via IPv4 and it is ON THE INTERNET.  It is directly 
> reachable via IPv6.  Selling Internet connectivity without IPv6 should be considered fraud these days.  Don’t
> you believe in “Truth in Advertising”?

I had meant to write “They can still get from our network to 100% of all Internet content and services that matter to 
them [our customers] via IPv4...”

0% of my IPv4-only customers have opened tickets saying they cannot reach some service that is only IPv6 accessible. So 
if they do care about IPv6 connectivity, they haven’t communicated that to us.

> Mark Andrews, ISC
> 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia
> PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742              INTERNET: marka () isc org

Thanks,

-Brian