RE: residential/smb internet access in 2019 - help?

[Ray Van Dolson <rvandolson () esri com>]

Have been through something similar recently with CenturyLink extending fiber service to a residence where only 3Mbps 
DSL was available previously.

Total costs ended up being in the mid five figures range (though I don’t know how far they needed to extend fiber).  We 
amortized over a multi-year term on top of an already four figure MRC.  50Mbps service in the end.

Probably not worth it for most.

Ray

From: NANOG <nanog-bounces () nanog org> On Behalf Of Ross Tajvar
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2019 8:29 PM
To: david raistrick <drais () icantclick org>
Cc: North American Network Operators' Group <nanog () nanog org>
Subject: Re: residential/smb internet access in 2019 - help?

This is a common problem with no good solution. Fiber buildouts are almost always insanely expensive. If you can get 
one at a more reasonable cost, or more likely if you can sign a contract of a sufficient length to convince the carrier 
to subsidize it, you may be able to get good service that way.

The tower thing could also work if you want to spend the time/money on building and maintaining it. And also provided 
you can get a permit, etc.

But most likely you're just out of luck.

On Tue, Mar 26, 2019, 10:44 PM david raistrick <drais () icantclick org<mailto:drais () icantclick org>> wrote:
folks,

I've been away from nanog for a long time - and away from the ISP world for longer.

Looking at a house in a new area, at&t copper splice box out front, bellsouth fiber markers as well (yes, that's 
usually just passing by. but it's there).  Owners since '82 said the telephone company was AT&T - but the New AT&T 
apparently no longer offers phone or internet service there.

This is located in a semi-rural area between Ocala and Gainesville Florida (Micanopy, specifically).

I knew the state of residential service was in sorry shape - but from what I'm reading, it seems to be worse than I'd 
though possible.

Anyone have any suggestions for service options?  I'm cool with dark fiber, if it comes down to that (and can be price 
sanely and terminated somewhere useful), but it seems like there -should- still be CLEC/DLECs or just plain resellers 
in business who still have access to resources that are in the ground.

My business operates from home - so obviously quality service is a priority, and I'm willing to pay for it within 
reason.  Business plans are certainly an option as well.

I've confirmed with all of the known players via their front channels - att, windstream, centurylink, frontier, 
cox/comcast/spectre.

Via backchannels I've confirmed that cox has fiber in the ground 1.4 miles away - straight shot down a dirt road (same 
one with the BS fiber markers).   I have a lead on a couple of tower shots - but there's a big (for florida) ridge 
between us, and I might have to build 3-400ft to hit anything (speculatively).

Anyone have local area or other knowledge that might be helpful?

I'd hate to miss out on this house - it's a lot of things we love - but cell or sat only for internet access just isn't 
going to fly.


thanks guys.

...david