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Re: WIndows Updates Fail Via IPv6 - Update!


From: Mark Tinka <mark.tinka () seacom mu>
Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2019 23:10:13 +0200



On 3/Mar/19 23:04, Mark Andrews wrote:

There are lots of IDIOTS out there that BLOCK ALL ICMP.  That blocks PTB getting
back to the TCP servers.  There are also IDIOTS that deploy load balancers that
DO NOT LOOK INSIDE ICMP messages for redirecting ICMP messages to the correct
back end.  There are also IDOITS that rate limit PTB generation to ridiculously
low rates.  One should be able to generate PTB at line rate.

Everyone that has configured mss-fix-up has contributed to misunderstanding that
you can block ICMP.  It is time we had a flag day to REMOVE mss-fix-up from all
the boxes you control.  We need to get PTB working and unfortunately that means
that we need to stop pandering to admins who don’t know how IP is supposed to
work.  ICMP is NOT optional.

If you don’t want to do PMTUD then DO NOT SEND packet bigger than the network
MTU.  For IPv6 set IPV6_USE_MIN_MTU 1 on the socket.  On a properly written
IP stack this will result in TCP MSS negotiation to the same value.  Yes, it is
a requirement of TCP to pay attention to this as it becomes the effective MTU
of the outgoing interface even if it wasn’t explicitly written into the RFC
that defined IPV6_USE_MIN_MTU.

You're most welcome to my choir group, good sir.

Mark.


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