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Re: 44/8


From: "andrew.brant via NANOG" <nanog () nanog org>
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2019 12:39:49 -0500

Whatever happened to the entire class E block? I know it's reserved for future use, but sounds like that future is now 
given that we've exhausted all existing allocations.Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
-------- Original message --------From: William Herrin <bill () herrin us> Date: 7/22/19  12:16 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: 
John Curran <jcurran () arin net> Cc: North American Network Operators' Group <nanog () nanog org> Subject: Re: 44/8 On 
Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 6:02 AM John Curran <jcurran () arin net> wrote:> On 21 Jul 2019, at 7:32 AM, William Herrin <bill 
() herrin us> wrote:> > Having read their explanation, I think the folks involved had good > > reasons and the best 
intentions but this stinks like fraud to me. Worse,> > it looks like ARIN was complicit in the fraud -- encouraging and 
then > > supporting the folks involved as they established a fiefdom of their own> >rather than integrating with the 
organizations that existed.>> As you are aware, there are individuals and businesses who operate as>a “Doing Business 
As/DBA" or on behalf on an unincorporated organization>at the time of issuance; it is a more common occurrence than one 
might imagine,>and we have to deal with the early registrations appropriately based on the>particular circumstance.   
ARIN promptly put processes in place so that such>registrations, having been made on behalf of a particular purpose or 
organization,>do not get misappropriated to become rights solely of the point of contact held for>personal gain – 
indeed, there are cases where organizations are created with>similar names for the purposes of hijacking number 
resources, but such cases>don’t generally involve principles who were involved in the administration of the>resources 
since issuance nor do they involve formalization of the registrant into>a public benefit not-for-profit 
organization.Respectfully John, this wasn't a DBA or an individual figuring the org name field on the old email 
template couldn't be blank. A class-A was allocated to a _purpose_. You've not only allowed but encouraged that 
valuable resource to be reassigned to an organization, this ARDC, and then treated the organization as a proxy for the 
purpose. No one asked you to do that. Nothing in the publicly vetted policies demanded that you attach organizations to 
the purpose-based allocations and certainly nothing demanded that you grant such organizations identical control over 
the resources as the control possessed by folks who were the intended direct recipients of assignments.I guess you 
thought that would avoid having ARIN make judgement calls each time about whether the registrant for a purpose-based 
allocation was acting in the best interest of the purpose? It doesn't. It just makes ARIN look like a party to 
fraud.Regards,Bill Herrin-- William Herrinbill@herrin.ushttps://bill.herrin.us/

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