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Re: SHAKEN/STIR Robocall Summit - July 11 2019 at FCC
From: "Jay R. Ashworth" <jra () baylink com>
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2019 19:07:12 +0000 (UTC)
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From: "Christopher Morrow" <morrowc.lists () gmail com>
On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 12:00 PM Paul Timmins <paul () telcodata us> wrote:Chris it would be trivial for this to be fixed, nearly overnight, by creating some liability on the part of carriers for illicit use of caller ID data on behalf of their customers.'illicit use of caller id' - how is caller-id being illicitly used though? I don't think it's against the law to say a different 'callerid' in the call session, practically every actual call center does this, right?
I can speak to that, having originated calls from a call center. Yes, of course we sent out calls with "spoofed" CNID. But, even though only 2 or 3 or our 5 carriers* held *our* feet to the fire, we held the clients' feet to the fire, requiring them to prove to our satisfaction that they had adminstrative control over the numbers in question. But it's the carrier's responsibility, properly, to do that work. [ It was, IIRC, Verizon, Qwest and maybe Sprint that forced the issue with us; at least two carriers did not. No longer recalll which ones. ] Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink jra () baylink com Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth & Associates http://www.bcp38.info 2000 Land Rover DII St Petersburg FL USA BCP38: Ask For It By Name! +1 727 647 1274
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- Re: SHAKEN/STIR Robocall Summit - July 11 2019 at FCC, (continued)
- Re: SHAKEN/STIR Robocall Summit - July 11 2019 at FCC Christopher Morrow (Jul 11)
- Re: SHAKEN/STIR Robocall Summit - July 11 2019 at FCC Michael Thomas (Jul 11)
- Re: SHAKEN/STIR Robocall Summit - July 11 2019 at FCC Christopher Morrow (Jul 11)
- Re: SHAKEN/STIR Robocall Summit - July 11 2019 at FCC Michael Thomas (Jul 11)
- Re: SHAKEN/STIR Robocall Summit - July 11 2019 at FCC Paul Timmins (Jul 11)
- Re: SHAKEN/STIR Robocall Summit - July 11 2019 at FCC Peter Beckman (Jul 11)
- Re: SHAKEN/STIR Robocall Summit - July 11 2019 at FCC Christopher Morrow (Jul 11)
- Re: SHAKEN/STIR Robocall Summit - July 11 2019 at FCC Michael Thomas (Jul 11)
- Re: SHAKEN/STIR Robocall Summit - July 11 2019 at FCC John Curran (Jul 19)
- Re: SHAKEN/STIR Robocall Summit - July 11 2019 at FCC Paul Timmins (Jul 11)
- Re: SHAKEN/STIR Robocall Summit - July 11 2019 at FCC Jay R. Ashworth (Jul 15)
- Re: SHAKEN/STIR Robocall Summit - July 11 2019 at FCC Michael Thomas (Jul 16)
- Re: SHAKEN/STIR Robocall Summit - July 11 2019 at FCC Dan Hollis (Jul 16)
- Re: SHAKEN/STIR Robocall Summit - July 11 2019 at FCC Christopher Morrow (Jul 16)
- Re: SHAKEN/STIR Robocall Summit - July 11 2019 at FCC Jay R. Ashworth (Jul 18)
- Re: SHAKEN/STIR Robocall Summit - July 11 2019 at FCC Michael Thomas (Jul 18)
- Re: SHAKEN/STIR Robocall Summit - July 11 2019 at FCC Sean Donelan (Jul 11)