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Re: SHAKEN/STIR Robocall Summit - July 11 2019 at FCC
From: Rich Kulawiec <rsk () gsp org>
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2019 08:35:30 -0400
On Mon, Jul 08, 2019 at 06:54:51PM -0600, Keith Medcalf wrote:
This is because DKIM was a solution to a problem that did not exist.
This is correct. We have always known the IP address of the connecting MTA, therefore we have always known the network it resides in, therefore we have always known who is responsible for what transits that connection. Worse, this (poorly) attempts to wallpaper over the problems of compromised systems/accounts. Do recall that not long ago we learned that EVERY Yahoo account was compromised. Anyone who thinks that Microsoft or Google or Comcast or anyone else are doing any better is naive: it's not a question of whether they've also suffered mass compromises, only a question of how many and when they'll publicly admit it. This isn't surprising. The real underlying problems here are tough and expensive, thus it's far easire to do (nearly) meaningless feel-good work, declare the problems solved, and engage in a round of self-congratulation. It *appears*, and that's a preliminary assessment on my part, that SHAKEN/STIR is following this same track. ---rsk
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- RE: SHAKEN/STIR Robocall Summit - July 11 2019 at FCC, (continued)
- RE: SHAKEN/STIR Robocall Summit - July 11 2019 at FCC Keith Medcalf (Jul 08)
- Re: SHAKEN/STIR Robocall Summit - July 11 2019 at FCC Michael Thomas (Jul 08)
- RE: SHAKEN/STIR Robocall Summit - July 11 2019 at FCC Keith Medcalf (Jul 08)
- Re: SHAKEN/STIR Robocall Summit - July 11 2019 at FCC Christopher Morrow (Jul 08)
- Re: SHAKEN/STIR Robocall Summit - July 11 2019 at FCC Michael Thomas (Jul 08)
- Re: SHAKEN/STIR Robocall Summit - July 11 2019 at FCC Izzy Goldstein - TeleGo (Jul 09)
- Re: SHAKEN/STIR Robocall Summit - July 11 2019 at FCC Michael Thomas (Jul 08)
- Re: SHAKEN/STIR Robocall Summit - July 11 2019 at FCC Valdis Klētnieks (Jul 08)
- Re: SHAKEN/STIR Robocall Summit - July 11 2019 at FCC Michael Thomas (Jul 08)
- RE: SHAKEN/STIR Robocall Summit - July 11 2019 at FCC Keith Medcalf (Jul 08)
- Re: SHAKEN/STIR Robocall Summit - July 11 2019 at FCC Rich Kulawiec (Jul 10)
- RE: SHAKEN/STIR Robocall Summit - July 11 2019 at FCC Peter Beckman (Jul 10)
- Re: SHAKEN/STIR Robocall Summit - July 11 2019 at FCC Sean Donelan (Jul 10)
- Re: SHAKEN/STIR Robocall Summit - July 11 2019 at FCC Christopher Morrow (Jul 10)
- RE: SHAKEN/STIR Robocall Summit - July 11 2019 at FCC Keith Medcalf (Jul 10)
- Re: SHAKEN/STIR Robocall Summit - July 11 2019 at FCC Paul Timmins (Jul 11)
- Re: SHAKEN/STIR Robocall Summit - July 11 2019 at FCC Brian J. Murrell (Jul 11)
- Re: SHAKEN/STIR Robocall Summit - July 11 2019 at FCC Christopher Morrow (Jul 11)
- RE: SHAKEN/STIR Robocall Summit - July 11 2019 at FCC Keith Medcalf (Jul 11)
- Re: SHAKEN/STIR Robocall Summit - July 11 2019 at FCC Ross Tajvar (Jul 11)