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Re: Calling LinkedIn, Amazon and Akamai @ DE-CIX NY
From: Julien Goodwin <nanog () studio442 com au>
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2019 21:04:45 +1100
On 31/1/19 7:08 pm, Mark Tinka wrote:
I believe most exchange points maintain both route servers and route collectors. Generally, most peers will connect to the RS, but not all. As you mention, some may connect but not send any routes. However, I believe all peers will connect to the RC. Of course, I can envisage scenarios where even this could be selectively done. But the reasons for (not) connecting to the RC are very different from those for (not) connecting to the RS.
Back when I looked more deeply at this (mid-2014 when I was redoing the AS15169 policy around this area) I saw things rather differently, and my impression is little has changed since. Even in exchanges that strongly encourage their use route collectors were much less connected to than route servers, and few exchanges had them in the first place. Part of the problem with advertising on route servers is many clients, including networks that should know better often treat those routes as a higher priority than is sensible, in some cases equal or higher than a PNI link in the same city. Yes we could have used prepends, but that's not necessarily effective and affects everyone for the actions of a few, and is why the routes AS15169 advertised on route servers reduced back then.
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- Re: Calling LinkedIn, Amazon and Akamai @ DE-CIX NY, (continued)
- Re: Calling LinkedIn, Amazon and Akamai @ DE-CIX NY Jared Mauch (Jan 30)
- Re: Calling LinkedIn, Amazon and Akamai @ DE-CIX NY James Stankiewicz (Jan 30)
- Re: Calling LinkedIn, Amazon and Akamai @ DE-CIX NY Thomas King (Jan 30)
- Re: Calling LinkedIn, Amazon and Akamai @ DE-CIX NY Ren Provo (Jan 30)
- Re: Calling LinkedIn, Amazon and Akamai @ DE-CIX NY Töma Gavrichenkov (Jan 30)
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- Re: Calling LinkedIn, Amazon and Akamai @ DE-CIX NY valdis . kletnieks (Jan 30)
- Re: Calling LinkedIn, Amazon and Akamai @ DE-CIX NY Mike Hammett (Jan 30)
- Re: Calling LinkedIn, Amazon and Akamai @ DE-CIX NY Thomas King (Jan 30)
- Re: Calling LinkedIn, Amazon and Akamai @ DE-CIX NY Mark Tinka (Jan 31)
- Re: Calling LinkedIn, Amazon and Akamai @ DE-CIX NY Julien Goodwin (Jan 31)
- Re: Calling LinkedIn, Amazon and Akamai @ DE-CIX NY Mark Tinka (Jan 31)
- Re: Calling LinkedIn, Amazon and Akamai @ DE-CIX NY Mike Hammett (Jan 31)
- Re: Calling LinkedIn, Amazon and Akamai @ DE-CIX NY Mark Tinka (Jan 31)
- Re: Calling LinkedIn, Amazon and Akamai @ DE-CIX NY Mike Hammett (Jan 31)
- Re: Calling LinkedIn, Amazon and Akamai @ DE-CIX NY Mark Tinka (Jan 31)
- Re: Calling LinkedIn, Amazon and Akamai @ DE-CIX NY Mike Hammett (Jan 31)
- Re: Calling LinkedIn, Amazon and Akamai @ DE-CIX NY Mark Tinka (Jan 31)
- Re: Calling LinkedIn, Amazon and Akamai @ DE-CIX NY Jared Mauch (Jan 30)
- Re: Calling LinkedIn, Amazon and Akamai @ DE-CIX NY Owen DeLong (Jan 31)
- Re: Calling LinkedIn, Amazon and Akamai @ DE-CIX NY Bryan Holloway (Jan 31)
- Re: Calling LinkedIn, Amazon and Akamai @ DE-CIX NY Niels Bakker (Jan 31)