Re: power to the internet

[Ben Cannon <ben () 6by7 net>]

Exactly. And we will build it all.

The power stuff is serious people.  We’ve gotten letters from the FCC over it.  There is additional regulation coming 
down when people can’t call 911!  

You need at minimum 8 hours (or your CRT response time with a generator trailer, or a standby generator or two) of 
battery on your telecom equipment. All of it. Everywhere.  

Comcast is the worst about this, they never replace and often don’t even place batteries in their RTs at all - and they 
are going to get fined over it mark my words.

-Ben Cannon
CEO 6x7 Networks & 6x7 Telecom, LLC 
ben () 6by7 net <mailto:ben () 6by7 net>




> On Dec 25, 2019, at 8:41 PM, Don Gould <don () bowenvale co nz> wrote:
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> This is a very short term problem. 
>
> The market is going to fill with battery storage sooner rather than later. 
>
> Solar is just exploding. 
>
> Your car will "house tie".
>
> 6G will solve your data problem. 
>
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> -------- Original message --------
> From: Michael Thomas <mike () mtcc com>
> Date: 26/12/19 2:33 PM (GMT+12:00)
> To: nanog () nanog org
> Subject: power to the internet
>
>
> https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/25/california-power-shutoffs-089678
>
>
> This article details some of the issues with California's "new reality" 
> of planned blackouts. One of the big things that came to light with 
> these blackouts is that our network infrastructure's resilience is 
> pretty lacking. While I was (surprisingly to me) ok with my DSL 
> connection out in the boonies, lots and lots of people with cable 
> weren't so lucky. And I'm not sure how bad the situation is with 
> cellular infrastructure, but I assume it's not much better than cable. 
> And I wouldn't doubt that other DSL deployments go dark when power is 
> down. I have no clue with fiber.
>
> So I guess what I'm wondering is what can we do about this? What should 
> we do about this? These days IP access is not just convenience, it's the 
> way we go about our lives, just like electricity itself. At base, it 
> seems to me that network operators should be required to keep the lights 
> on in blackouts just like POTS operators do now. If I have power to 
> light my modem or charge in my phone, I should be able to get onto the 
> net. That seems like table stakes.
>
> One of the things we learned also is that the blackouts seem to last 
> between 2-3 days apiece. I happen to have a generator since I'm out in 
> the boonies and our power gets cut regularly because of snow, but not 
> everyone has that luxury. I kind of want to think that my router+modem 
> use about 20 watts, so powering it up would take about 1.5kwh for 3 
> days. a quick google look shows that I'd probably need to shell out $500 
> or so for a battery of that capacity, and that's doesn't include your 
> phones, laptops, tv's, etc power needs. What does that mean? That is a 
> major expense for a lot of people.
>
> On the bright side, I hear that power generator companies stocks have 
> gone through the roof.
>
> On the dark side, this is probably coming to a lot more states and 
> countries due to climate change. Australia. Sigh.
>
> Mike