Re: OpenDNS CGNAT Issues

[Matt Hoppes <mattlists () rivervalleyinternet net>]

So don't CGNat?  Buy IPv4 addresses at auction?

On 9/11/18 9:28 AM, Ca By wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 6:04 AM Matt Hoppes 
> <mattlists () rivervalleyinternet net 
> <mailto:mattlists () rivervalleyinternet net>> wrote:
>
>     That isn’t a solution. He still will need to dual stack and CGNat that.
>
>
> But the flows that can support ipv6, will go ipv6 and not be subject to 
> these abuse triggers.
>
> Look, this list has monthly reports from some small network operator 
> hurting their customers with CGN NAT. Meanwhile, the big guys like 
> Comcast / Charter / ATT / Cox have moved onto ipv6.
>
> Where does that leave the little guy with CGN?
>
> Right here. Screaming into the avoid begging for help. Some special 
> exception.
>
> And, me, saying you had 10+ years of not deploying ipv6.  Here’s to the 
> next 10 years of you email this list about your own failure to keep up 
> with the times.
>
> We will have this discussion again and again.  Not sure your customers 
> will stick around, all they know is your CGN space got black listed from 
> yet another service
>
> #realtalk
>
>
>     On Sep 11, 2018, at 08:54, Ca By <cb.list6 () gmail com
>     <mailto:cb.list6 () gmail com>> wrote:
>
> >     On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 9:12 PM Darin Steffl
> >     <darin.steffl () mnwifi com <mailto:darin.steffl () mnwifi com>> wrote:
> >
> >         Hello,
> >
> >         I have a ticket open with OpenDNS about filtering happening on
> >         some of our CGNAT IP space where a customer has "claimed" the
> >         IP as theirs so other customers using that same IP and OpenDNS
> >         are being filtered and not able to access sites that fall
> >         under their chosen filter.
> >
> >         I have a ticket open from 6 days ago but it's not going
> >         anywhere fast.
> >
> >         Can someone from OpenDNS contact me or point me to a contact
> >         there to help get this resolved? I believe we need to claim
> >         our CGNAT IP space so residential users can't claim IP's of
> >         their own.
> >
> >         Thank you!
> >
> >
> >     You should provide your users ipv6, opendns supports ipv6 and
> >     likely will not have this issue you see
> >
> >     https://www.opendns.com/about/innovations/ipv6/
> >
> >     I am sure it may cost you time / money / effort. But this old
> >     thing we call ipv4 is in a death spiral, and it will just get
> >     worse and worse for you without ipv6.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >         -- 
> >         Darin Steffl
> >         Minnesota WiFi
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