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RE: [proj-bgp] adding graphs for actually unreachable RPKI INVALID prefixes to RPKI Monitor?


From: Michel Py <michel.py () tsisemi com>
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 20:45:45 +0000

Doug,

Douglas Montgomery wrote :
You should follow the discussion of draft-ietf-sidrops-validating-bgp-speaker which proposed standardizing an 
approach to doing
what you suggest.  Many on this thread think that it is a counterproductive idea to do this.  See discussion starting 
here:
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/sidrops/6lDz5dI-jg-OhpGR4xKRZ6lYZRA

I'm looking at adoption numbers, especially in the ARIN region. RPKI is practically inexistant, and some respected 
members are already saying it's a rathole.

At 2% deployment, we are far away from the critical mass it needs. If the deployment strategy does not change, I don't 
see how that critical mass will happen. Until someone actually starts to discard invalid  RPKI prefixes and assesses 
the actual inconvenience, this is not going anywhere. If you want to promote it, you have to do something not just 
analyze.


Second, in general our mission is limited to supporting the development and promulgation of consensus standards and 
the development of test / measurement methods
and guidanceto accelerate their adoption.  In particular we are not well positioned to provide operational Internet 
services of the nature you describe.

You provide critical time services, this would be nothing compared to it.


2. There are some legal issues regarding the redistribution of machine readable RPKI data/results to third parties.  
See below section 5 Prohibited Conduct:
https://www.arin.net/resources/rpki/rpa.pdf


As always (and rightfully so) ARIN is trying to avoid legal liability. Better to remove the possibility of getting sued 
than having to deal with it. There are ways around that.

My $0.02,

Michel.

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