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Re: bloomberg on supermicro: sky is falling
From: Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuhnke () gmail com>
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2018 14:03:59 -0700
To me this looks like a Chinese version of the NSA FIREWALK product. Which is a network implant built into a RJ45 jack intended to be soldered onto a motherboard. The FIREWALK info came out with the Snowden leaks in 2013 and the tech was years old at that time. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSA_ANT_catalog I am not able to say a lot more, but when I worked for a major defence contractor in 2006-2007 in Afghanistan, building WAN links in and out of the country by satellite, hardware implants were found in equipment. Not our equipment, but it was close enough to our operations that we were briefed on it and made aware. On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 10:02 AM Randy Bush <randy () psg com> wrote:
re: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-10-04/the-big-hack-how-china-used-a-tiny-chip-to-infiltrate-america-s-top-companies from a side convo with a well known sec researcher:saw that a couple of years back when apple tossed them out. so who do we know that is for sure not poisoned. and therein lies the rub.Yuptruth is, i am surprised they had to add a chip, and one of the larger dies was not already trojaned. have visions of the chinese implant on box A fighting with the american implant on box B with occasional jabs from the israelis from box C. what i would love to see/know is how apple tries to vet the macs made in shenzhen. randy
Current thread:
- bloomberg on supermicro: sky is falling Randy Bush (Oct 04)
- Re: bloomberg on supermicro: sky is falling Ken Matlock (Oct 04)
- Re: bloomberg on supermicro: sky is falling Andrew Latham (Oct 04)
- Re: bloomberg on supermicro: sky is falling Eric Kuhnke (Oct 04)
- Re: bloomberg on supermicro: sky is falling Randy Bush (Oct 04)
- RE: bloomberg on supermicro: sky is falling Naslund, Steve (Oct 04)
- Re: bloomberg on supermicro: sky is falling Mark Rousell (Oct 04)
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- Re: bloomberg on supermicro: sky is falling Scott Weeks (Oct 04)
- Re: bloomberg on supermicro: sky is falling Denys Fedoryshchenko (Oct 04)
- Re: bloomberg on supermicro: sky is falling William Herrin (Oct 04)
- Re: bloomberg on supermicro: sky is falling valdis . kletnieks (Oct 04)
- Re: bloomberg on supermicro: sky is falling Mark Rousell (Oct 04)
- Re: bloomberg on supermicro: sky is falling William Herrin (Oct 04)
- RE: bloomberg on supermicro: sky is falling Naslund, Steve (Oct 04)
- Re: bloomberg on supermicro: sky is falling Denys Fedoryshchenko (Oct 04)