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Re: Whois vs GDPR, latest news


From: "Anne P. Mitchell Esq." <amitchell () isipp com>
Date: Thu, 24 May 2018 08:21:43 -0600



On May 23, 2018, at 7:18 PM, K. Scott Helms <kscott.helms () gmail com> wrote:

Anything that can tie back to an individual data subject is PII, that means email addresses, names in combination 
with addresses or phone numbers, finger prints, or even insufficiently abstracted internal ID numbers/codes.

Don't forget IP addresses, as part of the wonderfully vague "online identifiers".

Notice I didn't say EU citizen there, that's because the law and regulations (GDPR consists of both) intentionally 
cover any natural person in any of the 28 EU nations including the citizens of non-EU nations.
 I don't go as far as I think Anne was suggesting, in that someone in EU airspace who sent an email or made a 
purchase is now suddenly an EU data subject. 

You may accuse me of being a lawyer here (and rightly so :-) ), but "in", as in "in the Union" (which is the actual 
language) is very much open to interpretation.  In a judicial system where lawsuits have turned on  - I kid you not - 
the interpretation of what a comma meant, I can almost guarantee you that "in the Union" is going to get interpreted 
through lawsuits, and it is absolutely not outside the realm of possibility that a U.S. citizen visiting in the EU will 
bring a lawsuit based on something happening with their PII while they were "in the Union".

Any company that is covered by the GDPR must be extremely careful that any company they do business with is also 
compliant if that company will have access or act as a data processor.  That means that if you are a US company that 
has US only customers, but some of your customers have employees that are US citizens but who live in an EU nation 
then they are bound to only use providers that are GDPR compliant.  Now, this will result in contractual disputes 
and/or loss of business rather than having EU regulators fine your company directly.  The end result is that many 
many many companies that don't sell or market to the EU are finding themselves needing to comply in the same way that 
companies that sell services to medical companies often have to follow HIPAA  (and be audited) even though they 
provide medical services themselves.


Actually, GDPR specifically requires processors to include statements of compliance right in their contracts;  we also 
strongly recommend that controllers insist on indemnification clauses in their contracts with processors, because if 
the processor screws up and there is a breach, the _controller_ can also be held liable, and the financial penalties in 
GDPR are very stiff.

Anne

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