Re: Whois vs GDPR, latest news

["K. Scott Helms" <kscotthelms () gmail com>]

Yeah, that's not accurate.  US organizations sue EU organizations in US
courts (and vice versus) on a regular basis but have EU courts collect the
damages.  Congress can carve out an exemption, but I haven't heard of an
effort in that direction getting started yet.  In the absence of a
legislative exemption the EU regulators can absolutely sue a US entity in
US civil courts and get a ruling based on EU laws and regulations.

Here's a completely unrelated civil case, on libel, that references the
bilateral enforcement and how NY state carved out an exemption.

https://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2015/03/21/394273902/on-libel-and-the-law-u-s-and-u-k-go-separate-ways

Scott Helms
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On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 11:56 AM, Owen DeLong <owen () delong com> wrote:

> Not really. If you don’t offer services to EU persons, then you are right.
> However, due to treaties signed by the US and other countries, many places
> outside the EU are subject to GDPR overreach.
>
> Owen
>
>
> > On May 23, 2018, at 05:36, Mike Hammett <nanog () ics-il net> wrote:
> >
> > If you don't have operations in the EU, you can not so politely tell the
> EU to piss off.
> > -----
> > Mike Hammett
> > Intelligent Computing Solutions
> > http://www.ics-il.com
> >
> > Midwest-IX
> > http://www.midwest-ix.com
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >
> > From: "Matthew Kaufman" <matthew () matthew at>
> > To: "Fletcher Kittredge" <fkittred () gwi net>
> > Cc: "NANOG list" <nanog () nanog org>
> > Sent: Monday, May 21, 2018 8:07:15 PM
> > Subject: Re: Whois vs GDPR, latest news
> >
> > > On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 1:56 PM Fletcher Kittredge <fkittred () gwi net>
> wrote:
> > > What about my right to not have this crap on NANOG?
> >
> >
> > What about the likely truth that if anyone from Europe mails the list,
> then
> > every mail server operator with subscribers to the list must follow the
> > GDPR Article 14 notification requirements, as the few exceptions appear
> to
> > not apply (unless you’re just running an archive).
> >
> > Matthew