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Re: IPv6 Unique Local Addresses


From: Owen DeLong <owen () delong com>
Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2018 22:33:25 -0800

Sure… You have to maintain the tunnel or they may reassign/reallocate the address. Here’s the reality of that, however:

1.      Unless you care about reaching the customer they reassigned it to from your network, you don’t care.
2.      Using it for ULA in addition to the tunnel isn’t really prohibited by that. It’s a gray area, I’ll admit.
3.      Sure, they can cancel the service at any time, but you get what you pay for. It saves you $100/year
        while it lasts.

Owen

On Mar 2, 2018, at 1:30 PM, Matthew Kaufman <matthew () matthew at> wrote:

Section 3 of https://tunnelbroker.net/tos.php <https://tunnelbroker.net/tos.php>

It isn't "free". It may be included with a service that is currently available for free, but they aren't providing 
free address space for an unlimited period.

Matthew Kaufman

On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 12:45 PM Owen DeLong <owen () delong com <mailto:owen () delong com>> wrote:
Space from tunnel brokers is also free.

Owen

On Mar 2, 2018, at 12:40 PM, Matthew Kaufman <matthew () matthew at <mailto:matthew () matthew at>> wrote:

Exactly what Matt Harris says here... ULA is free. Space obtained from ARIN is not. You want to discourage someone 
from doing the right thing, charge a lot for that.

Matthew Kaufman

On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 11:30 AM Matt Harris <matt () netfire net <mailto:matt () netfire net>> wrote:
On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 11:08 AM, Owen DeLong <owen () delong com <mailto:owen () delong com>> wrote:


I doubt anyone is taking it away, pointless and useless as it is.

Owen


I'm not sure I'd say it's pointless and useless.  It's free, which gives it
at least some point/use case, versus IPv6 space obtained from an RIR where,
at least in ARIN's case, you have fees associated with that.  I'm lucky
enough to have a /32 from ARIN for the networks I work on, so we're not
stretched for space or worried about deploying ULA.  For a small
organization where even a /48 would be a luxury, and with no good native
IPv6 carriers available locally (still plenty of places like that),
deploying IPv6 on ULA space may be the stepping stone they need until other
options become open to them.



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