Re: Impacts of Encryption Everywhere (any solution?)

[George Herbert <george.herbert () gmail com>]

I’m confused.

People are using last hop (wireless) arguments against HTTPS Everywhere; that’s the part that requires full bandwidth 
either way (as your non-HTTPS cache is upstream somewhere).  The fiber links that are physically fixed and can handle 
in many cases better lasers, are the ongoing upgradable part.

If you’re complaining your fiber backhaul is too big a deal, you’re playing the wrong game to start with.


George William Herbert
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> On Jun 19, 2018, at 7:53 AM, Lee Howard <lee.howard () retevia net> wrote:
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> > On 06/17/2018 02:53 PM, Brad wrote:
> > While I agree there are unintended consequences every time advancements are made in relation to the security and 
> > stability of the Internet- I disagree we should be rejecting their implementations. Instead, we should innovate 
> > further.
>
> I look forward to your innovations.
> > Just because end to end encryption causes bandwidth issues for a very small number users - then perhaps they could 
> > benefit the most by these changes with additional capacity.
>
> I encourage you to invest billions of dollars in rural broadband capacity worldwide. The rest of us will thank you 
> for your sacrifice.
>
> Lee
>
> > -Brad
> >
> > -------- Original message --------From: Michael Hallgren <mh () xalto net> Date: 6/17/18  11:14  (GMT-07:00) To: 
> > nanog () jack fr eu org Cc: Matthew Petach <matt () petach org>, nanog () nanog org Subject: Re: Impacts of 
> > Encryption Everywhere (any solution?)
> > Le 2018-06-17 12:40, nanog () jack fr eu org a écrit :
> > > Well, yes, there is, you simply have to break the end to end encryption
> > Yes, (or) deny service by Policy (remains to evaluate who's happy with
> > that).
> >
> > Cheers,
> > mh
> >
> > > > On 06/17/2018 03:09 AM, Matthew Petach wrote:
> > > > Except that if websites are set to HTTPS only, there's no option for
> > > > disabling encryption on the client side.
> > > >
> > > > Matt
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > On Sat, Jun 16, 2018, 14:47 <nanog () jack fr eu org> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > On 06/16/2018 10:13 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
> > > > > > Sadly, it's just falling on deaf ears. Silicon Valley will continue
> > > > > > to
> > > > > think they know better than everyone else and people outside of that
> > > > > bubble
> > > > > will continue to be disadvantaged.
> > > > >
> > > > > What, again ?
> > > > > Encryption is what is best for the most people.
> > > > > The few that will not use it can disable it.
> > > > >
> > > > > No issue then.