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Re: Definition/Classification of Bogon


From: Aftab Siddiqui <aftab.siddiqui () gmail com>
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2018 12:46:53 +1000

Hi Bill,

On Tue, 24 Jul 2018 at 23:03 William Herrin <bill () herrin us> wrote:

On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 7:24 AM, Aftab Siddiqui
<aftab.siddiqui () gmail com> wrote:
Q - Generally, Private or Reserved ASNs are considered as Bogon ASN but
what about unallocated ASNs?

Hi Aftab,

You can reasonably think of a bogon as any Internet number resource
which according to the registration authority should not appear on
whatever network is at issue.


Perfect definition. I have the same opinion. BUT

Q - Is there any RFC (or even draft) which classify unallocated ASNs as
Bogon as well?

The RFCs offer guidelines and conventions in this, not hard rules. It
would be an error to treat them as hard rules.


Recently, during a discussion with few decent size service providers who
pointed me to RFC3871 suggesting that the word Bogon is for "IP resources"
only. Hence, I asked this question here.


Q - In the above scenario when an RIR deregister a resource (IPv4/v6 or
ASN) due to any disagreement (sometimes deregistration happens because of
non-payment and can be resolved in a few days/weeks). How long should a
service provider wait to mark them as bogon and stop advertising or
accepting it?

In my opinion: until the customer stops paying you or the authority
assigns the resource to someone else. As long as the resource was
properly assigned to the customer when they started advertising it,
there's no real angle to forcibly ending it sooner.


This is the current practice though it isn't the best one.


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