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Re: Rising sea levels are going to mess with the internet


From: "Bob Evans" <bob () FiberInternetCenter com>
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2018 13:18:00 -0700

How much ocean water displacement is taking place in Hawaii as a result of
eruptions?  How about volcanoes we don't know about deep in the ocean?

In the last 5 years, California governments have played a negative roll in
the burning of well over a million acres. These carbon emissions are
rarely calculated and considered as a cause of global warming. How many
California miles driven in cars = one 250,000 acre fire? I don't know.

Did you know there are adults in California that don't think burning trees
emit carbon emissions that count unless it happens in a man made fireplace
? Yes, most of those people went to high school in California.

But anyways - can we please drop the non-internet related discussions from
filling my nanog filtered technical email folders?

Lots of smart people to have discussions with in nanog...maybe we create a
list called nanog-other-stuff () nanog org

Thank You
Bob Evans
CTO




On 23/07/2018 20:03, Owen DeLong wrote:
It shows China, the most heavy handed of the three economies in the
graphic as having an accelerating growth in carbon emissions. It does
show that the EU started a downward trend earlier than the US, but that
the downward trend in the EU appears to be leveling off and the US
downward trend looks to be steeper now and accelerating.

In addition, if you drill down to the individual EU countries, several
of them are, in fact, headed up while the more market-based members of
the EU seem to be headed down or having leveled off after a sharp
decline earlier.

The data is flawed. The carbon emissions per country don't include
import, so you can just import the most carbon-heavy product from China
and you will see your country emissions falling and China's growing.

And the carbon emission of USA doesn't include Pentagon, while any other
army is included in it's country numbers.

So we can' really compare such flawed data - these are just numbers for
politicians but they have nothing in common with reality.

Regarding rising sea levels - I wonder why nobody mentioned submarine
fiber landing stations. If something will be affected, it will be them.

--
Grzegorz Janoszka




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