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Re: Proving Gig Speed


From: Mike Hammett <nanog () ics-il net>
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2018 08:25:19 -0500 (CDT)

As someone that has built his own last-mile ISP and knows first hand literally hundreds of others and coaches thousands 
more through social media and a podcast, yes, I realize what I'm saying when I say to build your own last mile. 



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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

Midwest-IX 
http://www.midwest-ix.com 

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From: "Radu-Adrian Feurdean" <nanog () radu-adrian feurdean net> 
To: nanog () nanog org 
Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2018 2:46:25 AM 
Subject: Re: Proving Gig Speed 

On Tue, Jul 17, 2018, at 16:42, Mike Hammett wrote: 
Build your own last mile or order that 10% more? 

Do you realize what you are saying ? Let me offer a few translations: 

1. "Don't spend N00 Currency/month for X Mbps from your customer to your aggregation DC on an existing NNI, but pay 
something like N0 KCurrency one shot (sometimes significantly more) + whatever is needed to extend your backbone ot the 
customer area (long-haul capacity, equipment, housing, ...)." CFO hates this unless you have enough customers in a 
single decently-sized area. 

2. The "10% more" does not work this way. In this part of the world, the next step after 100 Mbps is 200 Mbps, and the 
next step after 1Gbps (on 1G port) is 2 Gbps (on 10G port). You can't buy 110 Mbps or 1100 Mbps. You just can't 
over-provision L2 transport for those speeds. Even if you are in a situation where you really can over-provision, your 
customer stays yours only as long as the price is correct. A competitor that does not over-provision but instead 
explains how things work ends up winning "your"customers. 

3. There are zone where you are just not allowed to run your local loop. Most common example is airport and harbor 
areas. Then there are country-specific zones where you may not be allowed, and finally there are zones where a few 
select people do a lot of things so that only their favorite provider (usually the incumbent) deploys. A derivative of 
this, is the "select people" is the telecom regulator, that grants an almost-monopoly in certain areas to the first 
operator that comes with a deployment plan for the whole area (fiber anyone - individual and business - in a 80K people 
town - you have 10/15/20 years to do it). 

You may argue that some of those issues do not apply in North America (the NA from NANOG), but NANOG became pretty much 
global :) 


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