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Re: MTU to CDN's


From: Michael Crapse <michael () wi-fiber io>
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 23:46:29 -0700

I don't mind letting the client premises routers break down 9000 byte
packets. My ISP controls end to end connectivity. 80% of people even let
our techs change settings on their computer, this would allow me to give
~5% increase in speeds, and less network congestion for end users for a one
time $60 service many people would want. It's also where the internet
should be heading... Not to beat a dead horse(re:ipv6 ) but why hasn't the
entire internet just moved to 9000(or 9600 L2) byte MTU? It was created for
the jump to gigabit... That's 4 orders of magnitude ago. The internet
backbone shouldn't be shuffling around 1500byte packets at 1tbps. That
means if you want to layer 3 that data, you need a router capable of more
than half a billion packets/s forwarding capacity. On the other hand, with
even just a 9000 byte MTU, TCP/IP overhead is reduced 6 fold, and
forwarding capacity needs just 100 or so mpps capacity. Routers that
forward at that rate are found for less than $2k.

On 18 January 2018 at 23:31, Vincent Bernat <bernat () luffy cx> wrote:

 ❦ 18 janvier 2018 22:06 -0700, Michael Crapse <michael () wi-fiber io> :

Why though? If i could get the major CDNs all inside my network willing
to
run 9000 byte packets, My routers just got that much cheaper and less
loaded. The Routing capacity of x86 is hindered only by forwarding
capacity(PPS), not data line rate.

Unless your clients use a 9000-byte MTU, you won't see a difference but
you'll have to deal with broken PMTUD (or have your routers fragment).
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