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Re: Pinging a Device Every Second
From: Raymond Burkholder <ray () oneunified net>
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2018 12:20:01 -0700
On 2018-12-15 11:32 a.m., Colton Conor wrote:
The problem I am trying to solve is to accurately be able to tell a customer if their home internet connection was up or down. Example, customer calls in and says my internet was down for 2 minutes yesterday. We need to be able to verify that their internet connection was indeed down. Right now we have no easy way to do this. Getting metrics like packet loss and jitter would be great too, though I realize ICMP data path does not always equal customer experience as many network device prioritize ICMP traffic. However ICMP pings over the internet do usually accurately tell if a customers modem is indeed online or not.
I've found that this is a multi-faceted problem.Looking at pings or smokeping is part of the solution, but may cause false negatives themselves, when considering the next point --
Another aspect is congestion. Large uploads or downloads can cause packet loss (including dropping the pings with which you are testing). Therefore management packets such as these could be marked and processed, on your side at least, with a higher priority.
Someone else mentioned radius (or similar authentication/authorization logging mechanism), which will provide an answer if the session did in fact drop or not, for those types of connections.
DHCP address changeovers can cause outages.It has also been common to get the 'internet is out' call when DNS is unavailable for whatever reason. With out name resolution, most eyeball functions will fail.
Raymond.
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- Pinging a Device Every Second Colton Conor (Dec 15)
- Re: Pinging a Device Every Second Stephen Satchell (Dec 15)
- Re: Pinging a Device Every Second Colton Conor (Dec 15)
- Re: Pinging a Device Every Second Aaron1 (Dec 15)
- Re: Pinging a Device Every Second Dave Bell (Dec 15)
- Re: Pinging a Device Every Second Raymond Burkholder (Dec 15)
- Re: Pinging a Device Every Second valdis . kletnieks (Dec 15)
- Re: Pinging a Device Every Second Keith Stokes (Dec 15)
- Re: Pinging a Device Every Second Baldur Norddahl (Dec 15)
- Re: Pinging a Device Every Second Richard Holbo (Dec 16)
- Re: Pinging a Device Every Second Colton Conor (Dec 15)
- Re: Pinging a Device Every Second Stephen Satchell (Dec 15)
- Re: Pinging a Device Every Second Saku Ytti (Dec 15)
- Re: Pinging a Device Every Second Stephen Satchell (Dec 15)
- Re: Pinging a Device Every Second Saku Ytti (Dec 16)
- Re: Pinging a Device Every Second Stephen Satchell (Dec 16)
- Re: Pinging a Device Every Second Saku Ytti (Dec 16)