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Re: 2017 NANOG Elections General Information
From: Ken Matlock <matlockken () gmail com>
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2017 18:09:42 -0600
Yep, I've been in this industry since.. '94 or so, and the absolute number one reason that I do not participate in NANOG is that even going back as far as I can remember it's been a good-old-boy's club. Yes, there are some very smart people that speak up, but I see time and time again the cliques and good-old-boys club mentality inherent in NANOG. And because of this, the thinking and mindset of NANOG in general will (in my opinion) never change. As you mention there is definitely a 'cool kids' or Ivory tower mentality. And I'm not sure that it really *can* be fixed and more welcoming of newer members without risking alienating the old guard. So for the most part I tease out the nuggets of wisdom I can, and ignore most of the mindless arguments that we have been over time and time again about. Ken On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at 6:00 PM, Scott Weeks <surfer () mauigateway com> wrote:
--- bryan () shout net wrote: From: Bryan Holloway <bryan () shout net> Had I been a first-time attendee, I would've felt like a high-school freshman being told who all the "cool seniors" were. Frankly, it was awkward and off-putting. --------------------------------------------------- Not only first time attendees, but also long time list participants are made to feel that way; me included for making comments about vendor spam or top posting. I note that not only randy is doing what he says, but other old schoolers are now gone (such as vixie, li and others) who are folks that a person could learn a lot from. scott ps. I always shot peas at the "cool kids" table in the lunch room in high school. From time-to-time I want virtual peas to shoot now days... >;-)
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- Re: 2017 NANOG Elections General Information, (continued)
- Re: 2017 NANOG Elections General Information Bill Woodcock (Sep 11)
- Re: 2017 NANOG Elections General Information Dave Temkin (Sep 11)
- Re: 2017 NANOG Elections General Information Randy Bush (Sep 12)
- Re: 2017 NANOG Elections General Information Dave Temkin (Sep 13)
- Re: 2017 NANOG Elections General Information Mike Hughes (Sep 15)
- Re: 2017 NANOG Elections General Information Bill Woodcock (Sep 12)
- Re: 2017 NANOG Elections General Information Dave Temkin (Sep 12)
- Re: 2017 NANOG Elections General Information Steve Feldman (Sep 06)
- Re: 2017 NANOG Elections General Information Ken Matlock (Sep 10)