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Re: WEBINAR TUESDAY: Can We Make IPv4 Great Again?
From: Brielle Bruns <bruns () 2mbit com>
Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2017 19:13:10 -0700
On 3/6/17 10:16 AM, valdis.kletnieks () vt edu wrote:
On Mon, 06 Mar 2017 03:08:35 -0500, Joly MacFie said:routing hardware layer that will be hit & miss. Nevertheless, since much of the world is still IPv4 dependent, it just could take off.For it to "take off", the very same people who have dragged their heels deploying IPv6 will need to suddenly jump up and upgrade all their gear and personnel to support a *third* protocol. Oh, and you're going to need support buy-in from *at least* Microsoft, Apple, Linux, Cisco, Juniper, and a significant chunk of major makers of CPE gear. What's the business case for all these stakeholders to buy into EZIP? For both the "We already do IPv6" and "We don't do IP6v" cases?
Lets not even get into the fact that we still can't fully utilize things like already established standards such as ECN, EDNS, and PMTUD effectively because firewall and security vendors still can't extricate their heads from backside and handle basic functionality of IPv4 without throwing the packets on the floor.
If the average 'security' device these days chokes and drops a packet due to not recognizing the ECN option, what makes anyone think shoving more special stuff in the headers just for IoT crap is a good idea?
Wouldn't it just be easier to use IPv6 tunneled over Teredo?Oh wait, that would require the IoT vendors to actually build decent products with software that works.
-- Brielle Bruns The Summit Open Source Development Group http://www.sosdg.org / http://www.ahbl.org
Current thread:
- WEBINAR TUESDAY: Can We Make IPv4 Great Again? Joly MacFie (Mar 06)
- Re: WEBINAR TUESDAY: Can We Make IPv4 Great Again? William Herrin (Mar 06)
- Re: WEBINAR TUESDAY: Can We Make IPv4 Great Again? Joly MacFie (Mar 06)
- Re: WEBINAR TUESDAY: Can We Make IPv4 Great Again? valdis . kletnieks (Mar 06)
- Re: WEBINAR TUESDAY: Can We Make IPv4 Great Again? Leo Bicknell (Mar 06)
- Re: WEBINAR TUESDAY: Can We Make IPv4 Great Again? Brielle Bruns (Mar 06)
- Re: WEBINAR TUESDAY: Can We Make IPv4 Great Again? William Herrin (Mar 06)
- Re: WEBINAR TUESDAY: Can We Make IPv4 Great Again? Mark Andrews (Mar 07)
- Re: WEBINAR TUESDAY: Can We Make IPv4 Great Again? Baldur Norddahl (Mar 06)
- Re: WEBINAR TUESDAY: Can We Make IPv4 Great Again? William Herrin (Mar 06)
- Re: WEBINAR TUESDAY: Can We Make IPv4 Great Again? Bob Evans (Mar 06)
- RE: WEBINAR TUESDAY: Can We Make IPv4 Great Again? Dennis Burgess (Mar 06)
- Re: WEBINAR TUESDAY: Can We Make IPv4 Great Again? Seth Mattinen (Mar 06)
- Re: WEBINAR TUESDAY: Can We Make IPv4 Great Again? Bob Evans (Mar 06)
- Re: WEBINAR TUESDAY: Can We Make IPv4 Great Again? Mark Andrews (Mar 06)
- Re: WEBINAR TUESDAY: Can We Make IPv4 Great Again? William Herrin (Mar 06)
- Re: WEBINAR TUESDAY: Can We Make IPv4 Great Again? William Herrin (Mar 06)