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Re: Russian diplomats lingering near fiber optic cables


From: Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuhnke () gmail com>
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2017 12:20:54 -0700

It's not like the locations of any of the transatlantic or transpacific
cable landing stations are a big secret. They're published in the FCC's
digest reports for international authorization and whenever ownership of a
cable changes hands or is restructured.

Additionally it is pretty hard to hide from modern imagery intelligence
analysis any sort of building that has 1+1 or N+1 200kW diesel generators
and the cooling required for a medium sized telecom facility.

Locations of cables are published specifically for the purpose of helping
trawlers and ships avoid damaging them, for example:
http://bandoncable.org/cables.asp

That said, a pretty quick way to get on some homeland security watch lists
would be to hang around a cable landing station beach location with a big
DSLR camera, and appear uninterested in the beach...




On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 11:02 AM, Sean Donelan <sean () donelan com> wrote:


There must be a perfectly logical explanation....  Yes, people in the
industry know where the choke points are. But the choke points aren't
always the most obvious places. Its kinda a weird for diplomats to show up
there.

On the other hand, I've been a fiber optic tourist.  I've visited many
critical choke points in the USA and other countries, and even took selfies
:-)


http://www.politico.com/story/2017/06/01/russia-spies-espion
age-trump-239003

In the throes of the 2016 campaign, the FBI found itself with an
escalating problem: Russian diplomats, whose travel was supposed to be
tracked by the State Department, were going missing.

The diplomats, widely assumed to be intelligence operatives, would
eventually turn up in odd places, often in middle-of-nowhere USA. One was
found on a beach, nowhere near where he was supposed to be. In one
particularly bizarre case, relayed by a U.S. intelligence official, another
turned up wandering around in the middle of the desert. Interestingly, both
seemed to be lingering where underground fiber-optic cables tend to run.

According to another U.S. intelligence official, “They find these guys
driving around in circles in Kansas. It’s a pretty aggressive effort.”

It’s a trend that has led intelligence officials to conclude that the
Kremlin is waging a quiet effort to map the United States’
telecommunications infrastructure, perhaps preparing for an opportunity to
disrupt it.



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