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Re: Vendors spamming NANOG attendees
From: Mark Andrews <marka () isc org>
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2017 10:10:37 +1000
In message <38E506A8-247A-478F-9C4D-21602BEE6028 () beckman org>, Mel Beckman writes:
That still leaves the question: how to you invoke this financial punishment? Prohibit NANOG members from buying their products?
Everyone that has received the email bring a action under the CAN-SPAM act. Really if you don't want the list to be harvested, which is illegal under the act, bring the action. Opt out doesn't save the sender if they have already committed a illegal act. Mark
-mel via cellOn Jun 13, 2017, at 10:12 AM, Rich Kulawiec <rsk () gsp org> wrote:On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 03:31:46PM +0000, Mel Beckman wrote: Sometimes they're ignorant and don't realize they're spamming.That excuse stopped being viable sometime in the last century. Theyknowexactly what they're doing, they're just counting on the prospective gains to outweigh the prospective losses. If they're right, then the spamming will not only continue, it will increase. (As we've seen: over and over and over again.) That's because they don't care about being professional or responsible or ethical: they only care aboutprofits.So the choice is clear: either make it plain to such "people" (if I may dignify sociopathic filth with that term) that this is absolutely unacceptable and that it will have serious, immediate, ongoing negative financial consequences, or do nothing while the problem escalates indefinitely. If you give people the means to hurt you, and they do it, and you take no action except to continue giving them the means to hurt you, and they take no action except to keep hurting you, then one of the ways you can describe the situation is "it isn't scaling well". --- Paul Vixie, on NANOG ---rsk
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Current thread:
- Re: Vendors spamming NANOG attendees, (continued)
- Re: Vendors spamming NANOG attendees Niels Bakker (Jun 13)
- Re: Vendors spamming NANOG attendees bzs (Jun 14)
- Re: Vendors spamming NANOG attendees Dan Hollis (Jun 14)
- Re: Vendors spamming NANOG attendees bzs (Jun 15)
- Re: Vendors spamming NANOG attendees Rich Kulawiec (Jun 13)
- Re: Vendors spamming NANOG attendees Mike Hammett (Jun 13)
- Re: Vendors spamming NANOG attendees Dan Hollis (Jun 13)
- Re: Vendors spamming NANOG attendees Mike Hammett (Jun 13)
- Re: Vendors spamming NANOG attendees Joe Hamelin (Jun 19)
- Re: Vendors spamming NANOG attendees Jay Hennigan (Jun 20)
- Re: Vendors spamming NANOG attendees Mark Andrews (Jun 13)
- Re: Vendors spamming NANOG attendees Mel Beckman (Jun 13)
- Re: Vendors spamming NANOG attendees Mark Andrews (Jun 13)
- Re: Vendors spamming NANOG attendees Mel Beckman (Jun 13)
- Re: Vendors spamming NANOG attendees Mark Andrews (Jun 13)
- Re: Vendors spamming NANOG attendees Bryan Fields (Jun 13)
- Re: Vendors spamming NANOG attendees Jay Hennigan (Jun 20)
- Re: Vendors spamming NANOG attendees Mel Beckman (Jun 13)
- Re: Vendors spamming NANOG attendees Rodney Joffe (Jun 14)
- Re: Vendors spamming NANOG attendees Mel Beckman (Jun 14)