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Re: SoCal FIOS outage(?) / static IP readdressing
From: Leo Bicknell <bicknell () ufp org>
Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2017 08:21:53 -0800
In a message written on Wed, Jan 04, 2017 at 04:51:26PM -0800, Paul B. Henson wrote:
I'd call my business FIOS "prosumer" ;). Honestly, I'm not sure why you'd get business FIOS over residential FIOS if you don't need static IP addresses, at least if you're at an address where both are available.
I can't speak to Verizon, but I can speak to Comcast. At a past address I had Comcast Business (cable modem) service at a residential address, and then later downgraded it to Comcast Residential service. The similarities: - Both used the exact same cable coming into the house. - Both offered the same speeds. - Both offered static IP's for an additional fee. - Both clearly used the same routers, backbone, peering, etc. The differences I could see: - Cable Modem - Residential: could rent a consumer grade or BYO (I did, a good one) - Business: Comcast supplied and required their better-than-average, modem. It could be in bridge mode though. - Support - Residential: 0-30 minutes on hold, the one dispatch when I needed a truck roll took ~24 hours. - Business: 0-2 minutes on hold, I had two dispatches one where the truck arrived within 30 minutes, the other in about 2 hours. - Cost (At the time) - Residential: $75/month. - Business Class: $90/month. - Data Caps: - Residential: 250GB/month. - Business: None (with two paragraphs of disclaimer) Differences I could not see/verify: - Cable Modem Channel Selection - I'm told in some cases business class cable modems get different DOCSYS channels which have less congestion than typical residential channels. This of course varies greatly market to market, and is also dependent on the number of both resi and business subs on the segment. - Packet prioritization. - I'm told that business class packets are given somewhat higher priority (QoS) in the network. I could find no way to verify this, and generally had no packet loss issues inside the Comcast network with either service. Ultimately the reason to buy business class at a residential address (and I think the Prosumer description is correct) is generally faster repair times. On congested segments it may also result in slightly lesser packet loss. Maybe, depending on how caps are done, it could be worth while if you move a lot of data. Obviously if these differences are worth the delta in price depends on your situation and the exact delta in your location. At the time I had this I was working from home, so the extra $15/month insurance that I could do my job was money well spent. -- Leo Bicknell - bicknell () ufp org PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/
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- Re: SoCal FIOS outage(?) / static IP readdressing, (continued)
- Re: SoCal FIOS outage(?) / static IP readdressing Paul B. Henson (Jan 04)
- Fiber Costs [Was: Re: SoCal FIOS outage(?) / static IP readdressing] Leo Bicknell (Jan 10)
- Re: Fiber Costs [Was: Re: SoCal FIOS outage(?) / static IP readdressing] Fletcher Kittredge (Jan 10)
- Re: Fiber Costs [Was: Re: SoCal FIOS outage(?) / static IP readdressing] Jared Mauch (Jan 10)
- Re: Fiber Costs [Was: Re: SoCal FIOS outage(?) / static IP readdressing] Leo Bicknell (Jan 11)
- Re: SoCal FIOS outage(?) / static IP readdressing Valdis . Kletnieks (Jan 04)
- Re: SoCal FIOS outage(?) / static IP readdressing David Hubbard (Jan 04)
- RE: SoCal FIOS outage(?) / static IP readdressing Paul B. Henson (Jan 04)
- Re: SoCal FIOS outage(?) / static IP readdressing Ray Van Dolson (Jan 04)
- Re: SoCal FIOS outage(?) / static IP readdressing Paul B. Henson (Jan 04)
- Re: SoCal FIOS outage(?) / static IP readdressing Leo Bicknell (Jan 06)
- Re: SoCal FIOS outage(?) / static IP readdressing Owen DeLong (Jan 06)
- Re: SoCal FIOS outage(?) / static IP readdressing Robert Story (Jan 06)
- Re: SoCal FIOS outage(?) / static IP readdressing Leo Bicknell (Jan 06)
- RE: SoCal FIOS outage(?) / static IP readdressing Paul B. Henson (Jan 04)