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Re: Free access to measurement network
From: John Osmon <josmon () rigozsaurus com>
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2017 16:19:22 -0700
My point was that consumers voted out thousands of independents by taking service from incumbents instead of independents. Thousands have closed up shop. Where independents are available, it's still tough getting customers if the incumbents have a service that mostly works (over say 5 to 10 megs), even if the independent offers service comparable to the incumbent's advertisements.
In my neck of the woods, most independents only sold layer 3 services. and depended upon others for layer 2 services. The independents had a booming business with those conditions and consumers had an array of choices for ISPs. Then, the layer 2 operators started offering combined layer 2/3 services at a price point below the layer 2 only price needed to get to the independents. Unsurprisingly, the consumers flocked to the cheaper services. I've always felt if a company used a public right of way to reach a consumer, they should be prohibited from being a layer 3 provider. Or, at a minimum, they need to sell layer 2 services to themselves at the same price they charge others. I've known lots of people that would be happy to compete with the big boys under those circumstances.
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- Re: Free access to measurement network Dovid Bender (Dec 15)
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- Re: Free access to measurement network Max Tulyev (Dec 16)
- Re: Free access to measurement network Mike Hammett (Dec 16)
- Re: Free access to measurement network David Conrad (Dec 16)
- Re: Free access to measurement network Mike Hammett (Dec 16)
- Re: Free access to measurement network Lee (Dec 16)
- Re: Free access to measurement network Mike Hammett (Dec 16)
- Re: Free access to measurement network John Osmon (Dec 16)
- Re: Free access to measurement network Lee (Dec 17)
- Re: Free access to measurement network Mike Hammett (Dec 17)
- Re: Free access to measurement network Janusz Jezowicz (Dec 15)
- Re: Free access to measurement network Dovid Bender (Dec 15)
- RE: Free access to measurement network Edwin Pers (Dec 18)
- Re: Free access to measurement network Mike Hammett (Dec 18)
- RE: Free access to measurement network timrutherford (Dec 18)
- Re: Free access to measurement network Mike Hammett (Dec 18)
- RE: Free access to measurement network Naslund, Steve (Dec 18)
- Re: Free access to measurement network Mike Hammett (Dec 18)
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