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Re: Krebs on Security booted off Akamai network after DDoS attack proves pricey
From: Mike Hammett <nanog () ics-il net>
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2016 14:51:40 -0500 (CDT)
We can't teach other network operators the value of IPv6. Good luck teaching a consumer anything other than cat videos (and now recipes - unrelated to the former). ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brielle Bruns" <bruns () 2mbit com> To: nanog () nanog org Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 10:46:39 AM Subject: Re: Krebs on Security booted off Akamai network after DDoS attack proves pricey On 9/27/16 9:35 AM, Roland Dobbins wrote:
On 27 Sep 2016, at 21:48, Brielle Bruns wrote:You start cutting off users or putting them into a walled garden until they fix their machines, and they will start caring.It's important to keep in mind that in the not-so-distant future, their 'machines' will include every article of clothing they own, every can of soda in their refrigerator, ever major (and many minor) components of their automobiles, every blade in their windowshades, etc.
I don't see how this is a problem exactly? If people want to buy devices that connect to their home network, they need to be aware of what these devices can do, and it is their responsibility. Better to teach them _now_ rather then later. If Timmy Numbnuts doesn't understand that plugging in a random device he found at Goodwill to his network could potentially carry liabilities, then he will keep doing it. I point to the current trend of parents watching and smiling, doing nothing as their kids destroy people's stores and restaurants. ISPs are literally doing the exact same thing when it comes to coddling their customers. -- Brielle Bruns The Summit Open Source Development Group http://www.sosdg.org / http://www.ahbl.org
Current thread:
- Re: Krebs on Security booted off Akamai network after DDoS attack proves pricey, (continued)
- Re: Krebs on Security booted off Akamai network after DDoS attack proves pricey Patrick W. Gilmore (Sep 27)
- Re: Krebs on Security booted off Akamai network after DDoS attack proves pricey Eliot Lear (Sep 28)
- Re: Krebs on Security booted off Akamai network after DDoS attack proves pricey Stephen Satchell (Sep 28)
- Re: Krebs on Security booted off Akamai network after DDoS attack proves pricey Keith Stokes (Sep 27)
- Re: Krebs on Security booted off Akamai network after DDoS attack proves pricey Brielle Bruns (Sep 27)
- Re: Krebs on Security booted off Akamai network after DDoS attack proves pricey Roland Dobbins (Sep 27)
- Re: Krebs on Security booted off Akamai network after DDoS attack proves pricey Brielle Bruns (Sep 27)
- Re: Krebs on Security booted off Akamai network after DDoS attack proves pricey Brielle Bruns (Sep 27)
- Re: Krebs on Security booted off Akamai network after DDoS attack proves pricey Roland Dobbins (Sep 27)
- Re: Krebs on Security booted off Akamai network after DDoS attack proves pricey Peter Beckman (Sep 27)
- Re: Krebs on Security booted off Akamai network after DDoS attack proves pricey Mike Hammett (Sep 27)
- Re: Krebs on Security booted off Akamai network after DDoS attack proves pricey Mike Hammett (Sep 27)
- Re: Krebs on Security booted off Akamai network after DDoS attack proves pricey Jared Mauch (Sep 27)
- Re: Krebs on Security booted off Akamai network after DDoS attack proves pricey Sam Silvester (Sep 27)
- Re: Krebs on Security booted off Akamai network after DDoS attack proves pricey Roland Dobbins (Sep 27)
- Re: Krebs on Security booted off Akamai network after DDoS attack proves pricey Florian Weimer (Sep 27)
- Re: Krebs on Security booted off Akamai network after DDoS attack proves pricey Roland Dobbins (Sep 27)
- Re: Krebs on Security booted off Akamai network after DDoS attack proves pricey Jared Mauch (Sep 27)
- Re: Krebs on Security booted off Akamai network after DDoS attack proves pricey Florian Weimer (Sep 27)
- Re: Krebs on Security booted off Akamai network after DDoS attack proves pricey John R. Levine (Sep 26)
- Re: Krebs on Security booted off Akamai network after DDoS attack proves pricey Eliot Lear (Sep 26)