Re: Any ISPs using AS852 for IP Transit?

[Paul Stewart <paul () paulstewart org>]

To confirm AS852 and AS577 don’t charge $dayjob for prefix changes …. they both do them manually though which is a pain 
:(


> On Sep 15, 2016, at 4:09 PM, Theodore Baschak <theodore () ciscodude net> wrote:
>
> I don't think this is standard across the board with Telus.
>
> I've also heard (rumours?) of a similar $250 prefix change free associated with Shaw/AS6327 changes before, and also 
> a much larger $750 change prefix change fee with BELL-GT/AS6539, but the customers I know who use them definitely 
> don't get charged these types of fees.
>
>
> Theodore Baschak - AS395089 - Hextet Systems
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> > On Sep 15, 2016, at 2:21 PM, Jason Lixfeld <jason+nanog () lixfeld ca> wrote:
> >
> > Sure.  My question was whether every TELUS BGP customer was being charged for these too, or if I’m the only one.  If 
> > I’m the only one, then I’m obviously caught in some administrative black hole there that I would like to get myself 
> > out of.  This is something that has only started happening in the last 6 months or so.  Prior to that, we were never 
> > charged by them for these requests.  Unfortunately, my sales rep has been less than helpful in trying to understand 
> > what changed to make us susceptible to these new charges.
> >
> > > On Sep 15, 2016, at 3:15 PM, Hugo Slabbert <hugo () slabnet com> wrote:
> > >
> > > So, to be blunt, I would cast this as their charging you NRC for manual work because of their failure to automate 
> > > this.
> > >
> > > -- 
> > > Hugo Slabbert       | email, xmpp/jabber: hugo () slabnet com
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> > >
> > > On Thu 2016-Sep-15 15:09:33 -0400, Jason Lixfeld <jason+nanog () lixfeld ca> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Last time I asked, that wasn’t something that they had implemented, and had no definite plans to do so within any 
> > > > timeframe that was on their radar.
> > > >
> > > > > On Sep 15, 2016, at 2:50 PM, Steven Schecter <schecter () gmail com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I question their motivation here and would follow up by asking if they support filtering by IRRdb and are merely 
> > > > > trying to encourage the practice?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > /Steve
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 2:07 PM, Jason Lixfeld <jason+nanog () lixfeld ca> wrote:
> > > > > If there are any ISPs who use TELUS/AS852 for IP Transit over BGP, I’d be interested in hearing from you.
> > > > >
> > > > > I’d like to compare notes to see if you are also paying $250 for each BGP prefix filter updated request, or if 
> > > > > we’re the only ones…
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks in advance!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Steven J. Schecter
> > > > > (m) 917.676.1646