Re: Question on peering strategies

[Jared Mauch <jared () puck nether net>]

I disagree somewhat, without a view of how you are being hijacked there often can be no remediation. Yahoo for example 
provides no cloud services so you can't purchase a view of their routing by getting a VM. 

Jared Mauch

> On May 24, 2016, at 12:29 PM, Max Tulyev <maxtul () netassist ua> wrote:
>
> I'm right here at RIPE 72 now, so I saw it of course ;)
>
> The problem is not peering itself, but more general problem of filtering
> nets, and it was told in the presentation.
>
> > On 24.05.16 13:19, Jared Mauch wrote:
> >
> > > On May 24, 2016, at 6:11 AM, Max Tulyev <maxtul () netassist ua> wrote:
> > >
> > > If you dig into hijacking topic more, you will see that hijacks through
> > > Tier1 is same or even more popular than through IXes.
> >
> > You may not have a view into that you’re being hijacked and used to send
> > SPAM for example:
> >
> > https://ripe72.ripe.net/presentations/45-Invisible_Hijacking.pdf
> >
> > Their space was hijacked and announced facing Yahoo.  I’m hoping that
> > Yahoo is now feeding public route views services as a method to help
> > with detection.  Same goes for Microsoft and Google and other e-mail
> > providers.  Some sunlight here would help avoid similar localized hijacks.
> >
> > > And if someone want to make me a transit offer for the price of DE-CIX
> > > (I do not even ask the price of DTEL-IX peering ;) ) - please, contact
> > > me off-list, I will be really happy.
> >
> > Pricing obviously varies based on location and a few other criteria, but
> > you should be shopping if this is a major part of your business.
> >
> > - Jared