Re: Why the US Government has so many data centers

["Scott Weeks" <surfer () mauigateway com>]

On 2016-03-11 04:40 PM, Scott Weeks wrote:
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces () nanog org] On Behalf Of Sean Donelan
>
> The U.S. government definition of data center is a bit like defining
> a warehouse as any room containing a single ream of paper.  Yes,
> warehouses are used to store reams of paper; but that doesn't make
> every place containing a ream of paper a warehouse.
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> --- Steve.Mikulasik () civeo com wrote:
>
> This is a great way to create a mess of rules. Need a server
> for running an app locally to a site? You need XYZ standards
> that make no sense for your deploy and increase the cost by
> 10 times.
>
> Our server guys always try to set standards, then they run
> into a deploy where the needs are simple, but the standards
> make it significantly uneconomical.
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>
>
> Been there, done that, got many t-shirts.  There is no thought
> at all to economics.  None.  People that have absolutely no
> experience in networking or computers (read: can barely operate
> M$ computers) make these rules/definitions/processes.  It's not
> even sausage when they're done.  It's post-digested sausage.
> For example, read about the OPM fiasco:
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_of_Personnel_Management_data_breach
>
> I'm one of those 21.5 million people.  Fingerprints, SSN,
> address, etc, etc, etc.
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--- alter3d () alter3d ca wrote:------------------
From: Peter Kristolaitis <alter3d () alter3d ca>

I disagree.  Government departments are heavily concerned about 
economics.  Specifically, "how can we maintain, or preferably increase, 
our budget in the next fiscal cycle?"   If that means feeding 500 lbs of 
pork to a chihuahua so you can burn up this year's budget, then so be 
it.  Next year you can ask for extra money to put the chihuahua on a 
special, extremely expensive diet while simultaneously asking for more 
pork to enrich its diet.
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Ok, put that way you're correct.  It's really disgusting to watch the
waste knowing how hard I work for my money and how badly it's pissed
into the wind.

scott