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Re: Netflix VPN detection - actual engineer needed
From: Alex Buie <alex.buie () frozenfeline net>
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2016 16:56:50 -0400
Agreed. I find it silly that as a US citizen on my US-bank-paid-for Netflix account with US physical address information suddenly cannot watch things when travelling I legally could if I were standing in another place. On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 4:09 PM, Cryptographrix <cryptographrix () gmail com> wrote:
I have a VPN connection at my house. There's no way for them to know the difference between me using my home network connection from Hong Kong or my home network connection from my house. Are they going to disable connectivity from everywhere they can detect an open VPN port to, also? If they trust my v4 address, they can use that to establish historical reference. Additionally, they can fail over to v4 if they do not trust the v6 address. On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 4:05 PM Spencer Ryan <sryan () arbor net> wrote:There is no way for Netflix to know the difference between you being inNYand using the tunnel, and you living in Hong Kong and using the tunnel. *Spencer Ryan* | Senior Systems Administrator | sryan () arbor net *Arbor Networks* +1.734.794.5033 (d) | +1.734.846.2053 (m) www.arbornetworks.com On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 4:03 PM, Cryptographrix <cryptographrix () gmail com wrote:Same, but until there's a real IPv6 presence in the US, it's really annoying that they haven't come up with some fix for this. I have no plans to turn off IPv6 at home - I actually have many uses for it, and as much as I dislike the controversy around it, think thatadoptionneeds to be prioritized, not penalized. Additionally, I think that discussing content provider control over regional decisions isn't productive to the conversation, as they didn't build the banhammer (wouldn't you want to control your own content ifyouhad made content specific to regional laws etc?). I.e. - not all shows need to have regional restrictions between New York (where I live) and California (where my IPv6 /64 says I live). I'm able to watch House in the any state in the U.S.? Great - ignore my intra-US proxy connection. My Netflix account randomly tries to connect from Tokyo because I forgot to shut off my work VPN? Fine....let me know and I'll turn *that* off. On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 3:49 PM Spencer Ryan <sryan () arbor net> wrote:I don't blame them for blocking a (effectively) anonymous tunnelbroker.I'm sure their content providers are forcing their hand. On Jun 3, 2016 3:46 PM, "Cryptographrix" <cryptographrix () gmail com> wrote:Netflix needs to figure out a fix for this until ISPs actually provide IPv6 natively. On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 3:13 PM Blair Trosper <blair.trosper () gmail comwrote:Confirmed that Hurricane Electric's TunnelBroker is now blocked by Netflix. Anyone nice people from Netflix perhaps want to take acrack atthis? On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 2:15 PM, <mike.hyde1 () gmail com> wrote:Had the same problem at my house, but it was caused by the IPv6connectionto HE. Turned of V6 and the device worked. -- Sent with Airmail On June 1, 2016 at 10:29:03 PM, Matthew Kaufman (matthew () matthew at)wrote: Every device in my house is blocked from Netflix this evening duetotheir new "VPN blocker". My house is on my own IP space, and theoutsideof the NAT that the family devices are on is 198.202.199.254,announcedby AS 11994. A simple ping from Netflix HQ in Los Gatos to myhouseshould show that I'm no farther away than Santa Cruz, CA asmicrowavesfly. Unfortunately, when one calls Netflix support to talk about this,theonly response is to say "call your ISP and have them turn off theVPNsoftware they've added to your account". And they absolutelyrefusetoescalate. Even if you tell them that you are essentially your ownISP.So... where's the Netflix network engineer on the list who all ofus cansend these issues to directly? Matthew Kaufman
Current thread:
- RE: Netflix VPN detection - actual engineer needed, (continued)
- RE: Netflix VPN detection - actual engineer needed Naslund, Steve (Jun 03)
- Re: Netflix VPN detection - actual engineer needed Spencer Ryan (Jun 03)
- Re: Netflix VPN detection - actual engineer needed Cryptographrix (Jun 03)
- RE: Netflix VPN detection - actual engineer needed Naslund, Steve (Jun 03)
- Re: Netflix VPN detection - actual engineer needed Cryptographrix (Jun 03)
- RE: Netflix VPN detection - actual engineer needed Naslund, Steve (Jun 03)
- Re: Netflix VPN detection - actual engineer needed Mark Felder (Jun 06)
- Re: Netflix VPN detection - actual engineer needed Cryptographrix (Jun 03)
- Re: Netflix VPN detection - actual engineer needed Cryptographrix (Jun 03)
- Re: Netflix VPN detection - actual engineer needed Eric Kuhnke (Jun 03)
- Re: Netflix VPN detection - actual engineer needed Alex Buie (Jun 03)
- Re: Netflix VPN detection - actual engineer needed Mikael Abrahamsson (Jun 03)
- Re: Netflix VPN detection - actual engineer needed Owen DeLong (Jun 04)
- Re: Netflix VPN detection - actual engineer needed Mikael Abrahamsson (Jun 04)
- Re: Netflix VPN detection - actual engineer needed Davide Davini (Jun 07)
- Re: Netflix VPN detection - actual engineer needed Tore Anderson (Jun 07)
- Re: Netflix VPN detection - actual engineer needed Mark Andrews (Jun 07)
- Re: Netflix VPN detection - actual engineer needed Baldur Norddahl (Jun 08)
- Re: Netflix VPN detection - actual engineer needed Steve Atkins (Jun 08)
- Re: Netflix VPN detection - actual engineer needed Nicholas Suan (Jun 08)
- Re: Netflix VPN detection - actual engineer needed Baldur Norddahl (Jun 08)