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Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing?
From: Niels Bakker <niels=nanog () bakker net>
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2016 18:07:04 +0200
This thread is full of people who have never run large L2 networks stating their opinions on running large L2 networks, and they invariably underestimate their complexity and the logistics required.
* randy () psg com (Randy Bush) [Thu 16 Jun 2016, 17:56 CEST]:
maybe the complexity and the logistics required are WHY they don't build large L2 networks. SMITH: Doctor, it hurts when I do this. DALE: Don't do that.
Wait. I thought vijay "your solution doesn't scale" gill was a hero of the NANOG community, but now you're telling me that actually scaling up is a sin?
sFlow statistics isn't a luxury function. Neither is remote peering.by 'remote peering' do you mean an exchange essentially selling transit?
I mean the common practice of connecting via a L2 pseudowire with a provider that has an arrangement with the IXP to do so, rather than putting a router in a datacenter the IXP is in and then connecting to that router with possibly the same provider to the rest of your network. Mikael Abrahamsson probably meant the same thing when he used the term two mails upthread.
-- Niels.
Current thread:
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing?, (continued)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Randy Bush (Jun 17)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Eric Kuhnke (Jun 17)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Brandon Ross (Jun 18)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Stephen Sprunk (Jun 26)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Seth Mattinen (Jun 17)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Pete Mundy (Jun 18)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Mark Tinka (Jun 19)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Zbyněk Pospíchal (Jun 16)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Niels Bakker (Jun 16)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Randy Bush (Jun 16)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Niels Bakker (Jun 16)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Adam Rothschild (Jun 16)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Phil Rosenthal (Jun 16)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Eric Kuhnke (Jun 16)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Mike Hammett (Jun 17)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Mark Tinka (Jun 19)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Zbyněk Pospíchal (Jun 16)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Mike Hammett (Jun 16)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Matt Peterson (Jun 14)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Daniel Golding (Jun 14)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Randy Bush (Jun 14)