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IPv6 is better than ipv4


From: Ca By <cb.list6 () gmail com>
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2016 11:20:27 -0700

On Thursday, June 2, 2016, Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists () gmail com>
wrote:



On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 12:55 PM, Ca By <cb.list6 () gmail com> wrote:



On Thursday, June 2, 2016, Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists () gmail com>
wrote:


On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 12:23 PM, Daniel Corbe <dcorbe () hammerfiber com>
wrote:

Maybe we should let people believe that IPv6 is faster than IPv4 even
if objectively that isn’t true.  Perhaps that will help speed along the
adoption process.


​do we REALLY think it's still just /marketing problem/ that keeps v6
deployment on the slow-boat?​


YMMV, but the majority of my customers are ipv6. And for those customers
with ipv6, 73% of their traffic is e2e IPv6.


​I understand that tmo's (us at least) network is v6 native to the
handset... my question was really trying to point out that even if tmo is
100M customers, there are ~3x that on sprint/vz/att/etc ... so just in the
US is 25% repreesntative?



 Sprint, vzw, and at&t all have ipv6 enabled by default on many handsets. I
believe the samsung s6 was the first to launch on all national carrier with
v6 on by default



 and outside the US what does the mobile address family spread look like?​


Not sure, but v6 does live a dramatic life outside the US too
http://labs.apnic.net/ipv6-measurement/AS/5/5/8/3/6/



then, what if the resource being accessed to by the mobile users in
zimbabwe are local to zimbabwe and there's only ipv4 versions of that
mobile service... the reasons to go v6 on both sides aren't as clear. (to
me)


Afrnic has v4, apnic does not. As with the Jio example in india, networks
need to grow and they cannot do that well with v4.  And, the things that
make v4 slow in the USA likely apply elsewhere.



I agree that there are many dark corners of Santa Cruz without IPv6, but
the story is: the whales of content and eyeballs are on IPv6, and it is
cheaper (no cgn) and faster (RUM data) than the ipv4 alternative.


​I get why things look better in the cases of FB/TMO (as one example)...
but selling 'you should ipv6 because FB/TMO is better!' ​isn't really true
all ways.


Your network, your problem.

The akamai / fb / linkedin data are just data points. If you are in the
nanog region and want data to show up on mobiles, it is likely 10% faster
if your server has v6.




Does it really matter what single digit % of Alexa 1M has a AAAA?


​:) I have no idea...​




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