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Re: ISP License in the USA?


From: Miles Fidelman <mfidelman () meetinghouse net>
Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 14:17:12 -0400

A couple of places to start:

Baller Stokes & Lide, P.C. (www.baller.com)

http://www.bbklaw.com (which absorbed Miller & Van Eaton a few years back)

They both have practices that focus on telecom from a municipal point of view (municipal broadband, right-of-way issues, cable franchises, and such) - which is how I know them - but may be able to help or point you in the right direction.

Miles Fidelman


On 6/5/16 12:31 PM, Ryan Finnesey wrote:
Would you mind sharing some of the telecommunications focused law firms?  I am about to start a company that is going 
back into the CLEC/ISP/VoIP Business and I am going to have to establish relationships with a few law firms.

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From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces () nanog org] On Behalf Of Eric Flanery (eric)
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2016 2:55 PM
Cc: NANOG list <nanog () nanog org>
Subject: Re: ISP License in the USA?

There is no such thing as an 'ISP license' in the US. I have a hard time imagining Texas of all places would have such 
a requirement.

Depending on what exactly you are doing, there are various and highly varied requirements, such as acquiring a SPIN 
number for E-Rate, filing FCC
477 if you do broadband, FCC 499 if you do VoIP (CLEC and ETC also apply there), a FRN if you do pretty much anything 
FCC-related, various sorts of licenses for most radio/microwave systems (excepting part 15 stuff), CALEA, open 
internet, etc...

COALS _could_ apply _if_ you are running a cable TV system that also delivers data services, but it isn't an 'ISP 
thing'.

More to the point...

I wouldn't take US legal advice from any consultant not familiar with US law, or really any non-lawyer consultant at all. I 
wouldn't take it from NANOG either; while it's a tremendous technical resource, it is not your attorney.

There are a number of telecommunications focused law firms out there, with knowledgeable lawyers. It would be a good 
idea to establish a relationship with one, if you intend to enter the increasingly complex legal minefield of being an 
ISP.

--Eric

On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 11:24 AM, Dan White <dwhite () olp net> wrote:

Not familiar with the process, but look at E-rate if you want to
provide service to schools, libraries and health providers.


On 05/31/16 13:14 -0500, Lorell Hathcock wrote:

NANOG:

Our owner has hired a consultant who insists that we should have an
ISP license to operate in the United States.  (Like they have in
other countries like Germany and in Africa where he has extensive
personal experience.)

I am asking him to tell me which license we should have because I
don't know of a license that we are required to have to route IP
traffic to end customers.

I am familiar with CLEC status filed with our state.  But it is not a
requirement to pass traffic.

He is suggesting COALS with which I am completely unfamiliar.

Can anyone tell me if there is a Texas state and/or USA Federal
license for a small operator to pass IP traffic from the internet to
end users (commercial and/or residential).

I am aware that there are some CALEA requirements of ISPs that seem
to kick in once a CALEA request is made, but is that different from a
license.

--
Dan White
BTC Broadband


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In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice.
In practice, there is.  .... Yogi Berra


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