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Re: Cloudflare, dirty networks and politricks


From: Ca By <cb.list6 () gmail com>
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2016 17:34:39 -0700

On Thursday, July 28, 2016, Donn Lasher via NANOG <nanog () nanog org> wrote:

On 7/28/16, 10:17 AM, "NANOG on behalf of J. Oquendo" <
nanog-bounces () nanog org <javascript:;> on behalf of joquendo () e-fensive net
<javascript:;>> wrote:


While many are chanting: #NetworkLivesMatter, I have yet
to see, read, or hear about any network provider being
the first to set precedence by either de-peering, or
blocking traffic from Cloudflare. There is a lot of
keyboard posturing: "I am mad and I am not going to take
it anymore" hooplah but no one is lifting a finger to
do anything other than regurgitate "I am mad... This is
criminal."

(long discussion, was waiting for a place to jump in..)

If we want to be accurate about it, Cloudflare doesn’t host the DDoS, they
protect the website of seller of the product. We shouldn’t be de-peering
Cloud Flare over sites they protect any more than we would de-peer GoDaddy
over sites they host, some of which, no doubt, sell gray/black
market/illegal items/services.

If, on the other hand,  you can find a specific network actually
generating the volumes of DDoS, you should have a conversation about
de-peering….

$0.02…



Agreed. Cloudflare is just the messenger

The ddos is coming from your ssdp, dns, and ntp servers. Not Cloudflare.

I see a lot of ddos traffic.

It is always udp

Comcast took a huge step in stemming the ssdp problem in their network,
http://labs.comcast.com/preventing-ssdp-abuse

Thanks Comcast!

But they still host tens of thousands, perhaps more, open dns resolvers
that attack us.


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