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Re: EVERYTHING about Booters (and CloudFlare)
From: Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2016 20:33:51 -0400
On Wed, 27 Jul 2016 11:21:02 -0700, Dan Hollis said:
On Wed, 27 Jul 2016, bzs () theworld com wrote:There isn't even general agreement on whether (or what!) Cloudfare is doing is a problem.aiding and abetting. at the very least willful negligence.
aiding and abetting of what, *exactly*? You can't accuse somebody of it until (as Barry Shein pointed out) you have a workable definition of what exactly you're talking about. Similarly, "willful negligence" in most places requires you to draw a dotted line between the alleged negligent action, and some claimed damage or loss on your part - of a form that a court can provide a remedy for.
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- RE: EVERYTHING about Booters (and CloudFlare) Baldur Norddahl (Jul 27)
- Re: EVERYTHING about Booters (and CloudFlare) Steve Atkins (Jul 27)
- Re: EVERYTHING about Booters (and CloudFlare) bzs (Jul 27)
- Re: EVERYTHING about Booters (and CloudFlare) Dan Hollis (Jul 27)
- Re: EVERYTHING about Booters (and CloudFlare) niels=nanog (Jul 27)
- Re: EVERYTHING about Booters (and CloudFlare) Valdis . Kletnieks (Jul 27)
- Re: EVERYTHING about Booters (and CloudFlare) Mark Andrews (Jul 27)
- Re: EVERYTHING about Booters (and CloudFlare) Valdis . Kletnieks (Jul 27)
- Re: EVERYTHING about Booters (and CloudFlare) Mark Andrews (Jul 27)
- Re: EVERYTHING about Booters (and CloudFlare) Paras Jha (Jul 27)
- Re: EVERYTHING about Booters (and CloudFlare) Paras Jha (Jul 27)
- Re: EVERYTHING about Booters (and CloudFlare) Randy Bush (Jul 27)
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- Re: EVERYTHING about Booters (and CloudFlare) Justin Paine via NANOG (Jul 27)
- Re: EVERYTHING about Booters (and CloudFlare) Randy Bush (Jul 27)
- Re: EVERYTHING about Booters (and CloudFlare) Miles Fidelman (Jul 27)
- Re: EVERYTHING about Booters (and CloudFlare) Christopher Morrow (Jul 27)
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